Climate Change: You can deny, but you can't hide.

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Reality seems to be intruding:

    Top Republican Rejects Climate Denialism
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/michae...-nuclear-energy-and-natural-gas/#55f0e65048da

    Of course, science always had the advantage over ideological dogma.
     
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    God & Country Well-Known Member

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    When the narrative shifts as many times as this one has it can't be anything else but bullshit.
     
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    The finding within the IPCC have not shifted

    But the shock jocks like Hannity and co have made up all, sorts of Shiite
     
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    That's not science, it's incest.

    Imagine that, a "NASA scientist" signing off on another "NASA scientists" conclusions - all of whom are paid by the same source - the government.

    Which has its own reasons for perpetuating and paying for the fraud.

    You guys will never learn.
     
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    Wow! Someone who has seemingly not heard of carbon offsets

    Do you need me to explain what they are and what they do?
     
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    Ummmm

    You DO realise don’t you that not all climate scientists work at NASA?

    This is a GLOBAL concern

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    They're modern-day "indulgences" for the religion of the Left. No further explanation is necessary.
     
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    Ah!

    Well, I offered to inform you of truth and if you choose to reject it that is fine but I will post some information anyway because others read these threads and they will learn the truth

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    I can't read this line without it conjuring images of the Scarecrow from the Wizard of Oz.` OZ.jpg
     
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    hmmm, and how would you know this???
     
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    I think it also comes under another name, SPIN!!
     
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    Because the twaddle they peddle is posted here

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    Yes, any excuse not to clean up the mess we have made

    Tell me - did that excuse work with your mother when she asked you to clean your bedroom?

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    Carbon offsets are precisely an "excuse not to clean up the mess we have made". I show you a picture of Bernie and Warren getting on / off private jets and your answer is to excuse their behavior with "don't you know what carbon offsets are?". Carbon offsets ARE the excuse.
     
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    What you have NOT done is prove that Carbon Offsets are not useful and are an answer to a global problem

    Please post the scientific (Hell I would even accept economic) EVIDENCE that carbon offsets do not achieve a desirable goal in mitigation of Climate change

    Oh! And BTW adhere is my evidence that they do

    https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar5/wg3/

    And this list of 44 pages of names, over one and a half thousand people, were the reviewers who checked the accuracy of the information
    https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uploads/2018/02/ipcc_wg3_ar5_annex-v.pdf
     
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    Why don’t you read the IPCC to find out?
     
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    WHEN? WHEN? WHEN? When is eco-doomsday?

    Why are you waiting for "a few incorrigible ideologues" before you do anything?
    Are you really willing to let the world burn if you cannot compel "a few incorrigible ideologues" to join you?
    If you are of such an overwhelming majority, just do it. We, "few incorrigible ideologues" are NOT going to do ANY of the things that eco-doomsayers claim absolutely MUST be done NOW to prevent eco-doom. So, given that, what is your earliest estimation of exactly when eco-doomsday will be upon us?
     
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    Seems like a very simple question that any proponent of ACGCC should know. I am not a proponent of ACGCC exactly because none of the proponents, that I have encountered, can answer the most basic questions like when is this all supposed to happen. When will beachfront property go down in value? When will Martha's Vineyard, Miami Beach and Manhattan be evacuated?

    When matters. Then sun is going to go out some day. The sea levels will rise someday. When matters.
    Are we talking about decades, generations or centuries? Because, right now, it seems to be happening at about half the speed of evolution. If you can't answer the very first question - WHEN? - why should we believe that it's anymore of a threat than the sun going out? When matters; it really does.
     
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    I have around twenty thousand mature trees on my property. Not room to plant anymore. That should cover me.

    If they were really concerned about CO2, they would not just do carbon offsets. They would go beyond that. They should be trying to cover for other people who cannot afford to do all the carbon offsets.
     
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    Well, that reply shows you did not bother to read the report
     

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