Climate Change: You can deny, but you can't hide.

The 97% were the % of abstracts of those papers that passed through the handful of reviewers to be accepted by the journals that ID man as the culprit. The criteria used to determine if a paper was worthy of publishing was that it had to blame man for Climate Change. In short, if you wanted to cheat on a test and be believed, you would not submit a perfect paper. The scorers that reported 97% gave up 3% for credibility. Not exactly a scientific sampling.

 

I moved to OH and put a boat in Lake Erie in 1985. I went through several props due to low water that summer. From that year until I sold a larger hole in the water to throw money into, water levels varied from normal to high enough that some of the streams flooded. Every year in Ohio has been different and I couldn't find anyone to tell me that variability was unusual.

6000 years ago the Sahara was a savannah. Today it's a desert. There were no Hummers on the road 6000 years ago in case you were wondering.

 

When are we going to see the flooding that Al Gore showed us in "An Inconvenient Truth"?

 

When are we going to see the flooding that Al Gore showed us in "An Inconvenient Truth"?

 

Gee, I don't know. When?
I didn't see his film. Was it worse than the 3 500 year floods that Houston had in three years?
I didn't even know big Al was a scientist. I thought he was an internet guy.

 

Oh yea, much worse. However, his predictions have since come and gone. I'm just wondering when exactly is eco-doom supposed to happen? Go with your worst case estimates because we are not going to any of the things that the eco-doomsayers say must be done right now.

 

The MO of a Trumper...make-believe “genius” with a big mouth pretending to be an expert in all conceivable subjects. Remember when Trump suggested they put out the Notre Dam fire by dropping water from a helicopter? Then professional firefighters had to explain to him why that’s a dumb idea? In my experience that is typical conduct of a Trumper. They like to talk about how smart they are but they are actually know-nothings.

 

When is all of this supposed to happen? When is eco-doomsday? Is it always going to be here the day after tomorrow?
At this pace, I don't see us having much trouble staying ahead of it.

 

Been successfully hiding from climate change since the 70s when they said prepare for the coming ice age. Climate change is real I know but it works very, very slowly you shouldn't lose any sleep over it.

 

It seems to be happening at about half the speed of evolution.

 

Yeah, it happens kind of slowly. But that doesn't make it less dangerous.

Climate disasters cost the world $650 billion over 3 years — Americans are bearing the brunt: Morgan Stanley

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/14/climate-disasters-cost-650-billion-over-3-years-morgan-stanley.html

 

Climate like hurricanes, tornados, rain, no rain, etc?

 

Sure. High tides, storm surge.

 

That's been historically referred to as weather. The increases in the costs of weather damage is in direct proportion the increase in wealth in general. There's more stuff than ever to break, so more stuff gets broken.

Let me ask you something. Why do you think that the death rates from heart disease and cancer continue to rise every year?

 

You realize you are making these accusations in a thread proven to be based on a verifiably false premise, started by a “warmer” who didn’t have any idea what he was talking about? I love the irony. You are just another demagogue who doesn’t care about science, facts, or truth. You are content to parrot talking points fed to you by media, just like the OP.

 

What false premise are you speaking of? Because you can't serious be suggesting that idea that humans are contributing to global warming is a verifiably false premise. Here's what NASA has to say about the subject.

And here's the source that they cite for that.

Is NASA lying to us?

I don't expect a serious response. Trumpers are all talk.

 

Only a guess for heart disease. Obesity.
Cancer deaths are going down. I would guess better medical care.
The odds of Houston getting hit with three 500 year floods in 3 years - 125,000,000 : 1, I don't think that's just weather.

 

Read the OP. In fact, here’s the whole fraud of the OP laid out for you.

Read it all again. Think about it. Then quote me where I’ve said AGW is a false premise. You don’t know what you are talking about. If you had read the thread and used a smidgen of critical thought you wouldn’t be accusing me of such things. Or of being a Trumper. It’s pathetic you have to use that as an argument but I guess it’s all you have because you are a science denier as well.

I’m so weary of the blatant hypocrisy of “warmers”. I’m tired of their pathetic ad hominem when they are proven to be incorrect. If you all were serious about the climate you wouldn’t be so transparently hypocritical about science, facts, and truth.

 

While a few incorrigible ideologues still cling to the crackpot notion that anthropogenic climate change is a Chinese hoax and that spewing hundreds of millions of tonnes of industrial greenhouse gases into the atmosphere has no effect on the atmosphere, responsible folks are taking the needed measures.

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The IPCC does not “enlist” anyone

And I note the complete lack of citations

 

I understand why you wouldn't want to debate the subject. Few alarmists want to discuss the monstrous complexity that drives the climate because it would uncover the fact that no one knows. If we knew, we wouldn't have needed to launch a satellite to discover the effect cosmic rays have on cloud cover, water vapor being the most effective GHG. If we knew, we wouldn't be mapping the ocean floor --- we would already know since it impacts the flow of mass and energy around the globe.
Thought I'd give it a try anyway. Silly me.
https://www.desmogblog.com/chris-landsea

 

Bulltwang!

Handful of reviewers my sorry arse

There are dozens and dozens of journals out there and climate science covers such a huge area of the sciences that this would be a complete conspiracy theory of the most bulldust kind

 

Desmond blog! What did you do - grab the first response on the google search?

Love this bit

https://www.desmogblog.com/chris-landsea#s6

Now look carefully - this happened 14 years ago for a start

Think we might have advanced the science since then?

If you want to really look at the science yourself use google scholar

https://scholar.google.com/

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?as_ylo=2016&q=climate+change+hurricanes+&hl=en&as_sdt=0,5

Knock yourself out

 

Mitch

What do you THINK the IPCC says about hurricane intensity?

I am lolling awaiting an answer on this one!

 

And what was the solar output at that time?

Can you define the era you are talking about?

And

This is important

Were the landmasses in the same positions they are today?