Climategate, the sequel:

Discussion in 'Environment & Conservation' started by sawyer, May 22, 2016.

  1. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    Me - I'll give the majority of climate scientists some credibility. The reefs where I used to dive are bleached out. The high tides out my window are higher on the seawall. The road on the island to my north had to be raised because it was starting to flood. South Beach is installing
    pumps to deal with constant sea water intrusion in the drainage systems. Something is changing. To bury one's head just
    because your political party tells you to, isn't the hight of intelligent scientific thought.
     
  2. sawyer

    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Climate changes, it goes through cycles, always has always will. The OP is about scientist being fed bad data to form their opinion so you really missed that point I guess
     
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    Sea levels have been rising since the end of the last glaciation which is normal during an inter-glacial. Just because one chooses to live on an ever-changing coastline does not mean everybody else is at fault.
     
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    But most often, on much longer time tables. These are changes that are occurring in the last 15 years. If these changes
    were happening over several thousand - no big deal.

    And the BIG BIG difference this time is that billions of people now inhabit the areas affected by said changes - BIG BIG BIG difference.
     
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    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did you even read the OP ?
     
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    You do realize that all these changes are predicted and nothing unusual has happened yet don't you?
     
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    You are confusing climate variations with climate change. The IPCC even recognizes that short term trends over 10 - 15 years cannot be used to make judgements on long term climate change.

    Source - The Rightful Place of Science: Disasters and Climate Change - Roger Pielke Jr. - 2014 - page 42
     
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    That's why they use 30 year periods for temp changes.......which have gone up dramatically
     
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    What's dramatic about ~ 0.4 deg C in 30 years ?? And a climate sensitivity to CO2 of ~ 1.3 deg C ??
     
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    Your numbers are off
     
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    What do you claim the data to show ??
     
  12. sawyer

    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please research the little ice age and notice how fast we went into and then came out of it. Yes climate can and does have very rapid changes without the help of man.
     

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