Clinton’s advisers tell her to prep for a landslide

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  1. pol meister

    pol meister Well-Known Member

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    Just providing some balance to your blind loyalty, and your overly optimistic projections for a Hillary victory; or shall I say, the country's defeat.
     
  2. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It certainly is too early. Right now the polls are trending in Trump's direction.
     
  3. Gorn Captain

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    And if they trend away from Trump in the next 60+ days?.....you'll still accept that as accurate?

    :)
     
  4. Zorro

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    Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump Are Tied In Latest IBD/TIPP Poll

    Crooked Hillary, the little fat waddling brain-damaged neo-con war-monger, stumbled tumbled and fell as Donald Trump made gains over the past month, leaving the race a virtual tie.

    +7 lead, gone in 30 days
    [​IMG]
    Hillary "prepared" for a landslide!

    Clinton and Trump are tied at 39% each in a four-way matchup.

    The IBD/TIPP Poll has been cited as the most accurate in the past three presidential elections.

    http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/most-accurate-poll-is-ibd-tipp/

    Trump has been widely regarded as having had a good couple of weeks — which included his visit to flood-damaged Louisiana and his meeting with Mexican President Pena Nieto, as well as an outreach to blacks and apologies for his past tone.

    The IBD/TIPP Poll results show Trump made solid gains among independents, going from 36% support last month to 44% this month

    http://www.investors.com/wp-content...6_Horserace_Registered_And-_Likely-Voters.pdf

    "We also see a significant spike in enthusiasm among Republicans -- the 'silent majority' is turning into a 'vocal majority,' " Mayur said. "Republicans' interest level at 88% is significantly higher than Democrats' at 80%.

    [Scummy Grifter Clinton Takes a hit]

    Clinton, in contrast, has been hit by damaging revelations in newly released emails about the unseemly relationship between the Clinton Foundation and the State Department during her tenure as secretary of state. The news appears to be taking its toll.

    Clinton's favorability rating slipped from 43% in August to 40% this month among registered voters, while Trump gained seven points. Both candidates are now tied on this score.

    (62%) now say Clinton is "not honest or trustworthy," up from 58% in last month's poll. Trump scores comparatively much better...

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    The latest poll shows that 47% now think Trump would do a better job handling the economy, vs. 43% who pick Clinton. That's almost an exact reversal from last month. And while Clinton was ahead of Trump on handling terrorism, the two are now tied on this score at 45% each.

    In other bad sign for [Crooked] Clinton [That Fat Little Brain-Damaged Neo-Con War-Monger], the share of her supporters who say they back her "strongly" dropped from 51% in August to 44% in September. Trump, on the other hand, saw his strong support climb from 47% to 50%.

    As the fat little neo-con war-monger runs for Barack's 3rd term, 66% of the general public says the country is headed in the wrong direction, up from 63% last month.

    http://www.investors.com/wp-content..._Tables_September-2016_General-Population.pdf

    -> 50% approve of the job President Obama is doing, down from 52% last month.
    -> 41% say the economy is in a recession, up from 37% last month.
    -> 32% of households are "job sensitive," meaning that either someone is looking for work or is worried about getting laid off.

    http://www.investors.com/politics/clinton-and-trump-are-tied-in-latest-ibdtipp-poll/
     
  5. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    People like you have been hammering at her for almost three decades...and she is the nominee of a major political party for the presidency.

    Thanks for the balance...and for the laughs.

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    Yer right as rain, Zorro.

    You guys have no worries.

    You are now home-free.


    I am beginning to love this election!
     
  6. MRogersNhood

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    You will see that's not what's going to happen. :unclesam:
     
  7. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I will.

    I said a week or two ago that the polls have been seesawing and I expect them to do so up until election day.

    The question in my mind is how can Clinton and her advisors reverse the trend that we're seeing right now.
     
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  9. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL

    She is tanking, and what impressed me is how she's tanking with women and particularly white women. Could it be the eyesores she's been wearing in public...

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    ...or could something else be to blame? :)

    I'd say there are three things behind her free-fall in the polls:

    1) Her lying and "short-circuting" about her "truthfulness" that recently earned her a Four Pinocchios and a Pants on Fire

    2) The mountain of scandal piling up all around her

    3) The new leadership at the Trump campaign that arrived after Paul Montafort got the boot

    The clothes she can fix. It's the rest of the stuff that her and her overconfident advisors need to worry about...;)
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  10. One Mind

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    LOL. Here you have the DNC working hard for Clinton, being anti democratic, and you accuse the trump supporters of not caring about democracy? Then you had all of the dirty tricks in the primary that favored Clinton, purging voter rolls to get rid of sanders votes.

    Apparently you are clueless as to our election system. The Carter Center said our elections cannot be monitored for fairness, for they are set up to not be monitored. So, you just gotta have faith that the election is fair and democratic. These facts are very inconvenient, and do not support your, clueless post.

    Back when Bush beat Gore by 500 odd votes in florida, his brother who ran that state, and the GOP S of S, oversaw the purging of 56,000 black male voters, for being convicted felons who cannot vote in Florida. Once you could get one investigative reporter to dig into it, it was found that not a single voter purged, of this group, were convicted felons. So, what you are saying is dangerous to your democracy, for you choose to indulge in ignore-ance.

    "Just the facts, ma'am" as Joe Friday was fond of saying, tears you a new *********. And with most Clinton sycophants, it is large enough to shove your own head up inside it, so as to keep sand out of your ears. But fecal matter filled ears are even worse. For it makes your ears stink.

    We have probably not had a president elected by a fair, non rigged, non corrupt election system for decades. The Princeton Study, which most people never heard of, for MSM insured it was not covered, concluded we are an oligarchy, using evidence, that would stand up in any court. A republic democratically elects its president, but an oligarchy does not. Trump is a threat to this oligarchy. And both parties, and MSM will work hard to insure that the oligarchy candidate wins, to protect the oligarchy. So Clinton voters are supporting the status quo, of oligarchy, which is a form of fascism. And most have no clue as to what they are doing. And you say trump supporters do not believe in democracy? LOL.

    But hey, americans deserve the form of gov't they vote for. It is just too bad that the rest of us get punished along with the clueless. That is the cosmic level injustice here. The children of Clinton democrats do not volunteer for military service, so its the children of republicans and independents that do the dying for the democratic oligarchy president And Clinton loves war mongering, paying for it in the lives and limbs of non democrats.
     
  11. PeppermintTwist

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    Define stronger. Trump has a thin skin and loses it over every tidbit that does not go his way. On the other hand, Hillary kept her composure and dignity after eleven hours of bull (*)(*)(*)(*) grilling from the GOP on bogus BENGHAZI claims. Under the same insane pressure, Trump would have imploded and told the inquisitors to "go (*)(*)(*)(*) themselves!" Again, define stronger...thanks.
     
  12. Zorro

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    I think Cher was laughing and dying inside looking at what Hillary was wearing, are you serious?

    NYT: State gave Foundation donor access to Hillary in exchange for a private jet ride for Bill

    They are in it for the GRAFT!

    Ever wonder how to get a ride for free on a private jet? The Clintons figured it out pretty well while Hillary Clinton served as Secretary of State, as the New York Times explains today.
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    The emails released by Judicial Watch also include discussions about meetings between Mrs. Clinton and a number of people involved in major donations to the Clinton Foundation.

    In one exchange in July 2009, Ms. Abedin told Mrs. Clinton’s scheduler that Mr. Clinton “wants to be sure” that Mrs. Clinton would be able to see Andrew Liveris, the chief executive of Dow Chemical, at an event the next night. Dow Chemical has been one of the biggest donors to the Clinton Foundation, giving $1 million to $5 million, records show.

    Ms. Abedin arranged what she called “a pull-aside” for Mr. Liveris to speak with Mrs. Clinton in a private room after she arrived to give a speech, according to the emails, which did not explain the reason for the meeting.
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    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/02/u...n-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

    In another series of e-mails, the Clinton Foundation’s Doug Band and Justin Cooper requested diplomatic passports for the same trip that Bill Clinton used the jet

    What specifically did Liveris want to discuss with Hillary in exchange for the use of the aircraft?

    Did Hillary agree to take some sort of action or intervention on behalf of Dow or Liveris in exchange for the favor?

    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/09/...ccess-hillary-exchange-private-jet-ride-bill/
     
  13. TomFitz

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    No, we're witnessing the way smart politicians have always run for office.

    They make a plan, gather their allies, raise money, build a campaign organization, identify their opponants and their weaknesses, and work their plan, adapting it to the constantly shifting dynamics of every election.

    That's how it's done.

    And that is why the Clinton campaign is forcing the Trump campaign to waste time and resources defending territory it should have been able to take for granted, and leaving the swing states practically wide open.

    Donal
     
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    Yes, they are dangerous and irresponsible things to say. But one Presidential candidate has already said them, and will almost certainly continue to.

    This the culmination of years of irresponsible behavior from conservative politicans in the US going back two decades. From shutting down the normal operation of government in order to win political battles to trying to remove a sitting President over a white lie about a sexual encounter, they have put partisan point scoring ahead of governing for quite some time. Trump is only the latest manifestation of that tendancy.

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    No, they never thought they had the nomination in the bag against Obama.
     
  15. pol meister

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    So now three polls; the IBD/TIPP poll, Rasmussen, and the Dornsife/LA Times poll are all showing the race about tied. Interesting.

    Whatever one thinks of Trump, he's working hard at campaigning; while Hillary is working hard at fund raising, and playing "prevent defense". And we all know how "prevent defense" works out; usually not very well.
     
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    Not sure if this affected you or not, but after counting the provisional votes, it appears Bernie Sanders actually won the California primary.

    http://www.gregpalast.com/the-clintons-and-a-crime-far-worse-than-missing-emails-or-votes/
     
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    The media just refuses to cover any Trump positive action and covers for her while she remains out of sight. Some candidate.
     
  18. Zorro

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    Yup: MOE is generally 3 points.

    IBD, Fox, Rasmussen, Reuters and Gravis all have it at 2 points or closer.

    On the Aggregate Crooked Hillary's 7.4 lead of 3 weeks ago has been cut in half.

    Trump leads 2 of the last 3 polls in Florida.
    Tied in the most recent OH poll
    Margin of error in the last two VA polls
    Leading the last NC poll.
    Has taken the lead in GA
    Margin of error in NV
    Margin of error (MOE) in last WI poll
    Now leads in IA
    MOE in OR

    That leaves him 7 ways to win, Crooked Hillary only has 5.

    http://www.270towin.com/maps/YDLkY
     
  19. TomFitz

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    I dont know about the IBD poll. The LA Times poll has been written off by just about everyone (except the talk radio crowd) as an outlier. And Rasmussen??? Seriously?

    None of this changes the fact that the 50 states polling puts the election where it is, and it is not really tightening up.
     
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    I thought this thread was about a Trump landslide.
     
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    consultants on hillary's payroll are telling her she is going to win? Well gee, if they were to tell her that she's going to lose, they might lose their jobs. Consultants are supposed to give good advice, rather than "sorry, but it looks like you don't have a chance".
     
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    If so, the Trump consultants must be having a hell of a time keeping a straight face as often as they have to.
     
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    Ill tell you. Shes successfully done what no.crime boss in American History has ever accomplished. She was able to corrupt the FBI, the dept of Justice and congress. No criminal has ever been able to do that until now. Who would have thought that the world's most successful criminal would be a cankled (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) dressed in a moo moo.
     
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    He won't have a teleprompter. I guess he COULD write some crib notes on his hand like Palin. But his hands are so TINY I'm not sure a man of his advanced years could read it.
     
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    Is that what you think or is that what they want you to think?
     

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