Even former President Bill Clinton is a voice of reason, when his party is not. He is blasting Romney here....but since the Democrats have agreed with Romney on this; he's also blasting his own party as well. Bill Clinton backs Rick Perry on immigration Former President Bill Clinton is defending Gov. Rick Perry's support of a Texas law that gives in-state tuition to illegal immigrants who promise to pursue citizenship. Clinton in an interview with USA Today said, "it makes my skin crawl when they attack Rick Perry for one of the best things he did." "What would they like?" Clinton asked refering to the Republicans criticizing Perry. "Would they like the kid to stand on the corner and sell dope or something?" Perry rival Mitt Romney in his ad campaign has used the issue to compare Perry to Democrats. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57319872-503544/bill-clinton-backs-rick-perry-on-immigration/
Excellent OP. I think Perry is right on with this one. I would not be adverse to this being a federal standard, with citizenship granted upon the completion of college. Out of all the things that i do not care for about Rick Perry, his approach to illegal immigration has been both sensible and in line with his claimed beliefs,in my humble opinion. However, I think that a lot in the GOP, certainly in the primary race, will crucify him of r this stance.
i think it needs to be a bit more then just any college degree.... preferably a degree from a high need field in the U.S.
Ok i get the feel good story that they are already here . But to give them free College to help them steal more jobs from the American people is silly . Use the money to send them home to Mexico we bend over enough for theses people.
1st . Immigration is fine ..we have a set of rules. Those who cannot follow those rules and get education visa's should not get any college tuition discounts. They should not be rewarded with getting an education period. Yes ..sell stuff on the corner like they do in Mexico. Hopefully watches or tacos. You dont get it..The MAGNATE that draws them anywhere is free stuff. Nothing was free for European immigrants. We Came to BE FREE. and earned that right through the hard work of our ancestors. This Latino illegal flood is earning nothing...until they learn that law must be obeyed citizenship is not given freely. Maybe they can learn DRYWALL and labor history..to quit screwing over American workers who earned the right of that higher wage they scab away. I have NO sympathy at all for those who break our laws or for those who support it to gain political position. Or . TRY reading that constitution they were sworn to protect and defend.
Well... I am not a Perry fan, but his position should be very transparent. If you don't educate these youngsters they become a burden on society.. It was the same thinking in the early 1960s regarding the black population of the US..and the impetus of Affirmative Action.. Except for an accident of birth.. these kids would have been WASPS... so educate them and give them opportunity or anticipate a feral, poverty stricken populace that hates you.
BOGUS ALERT !! 1st line..Who educated the Irish..The Italians The Swedish.. The Chinese..the Europeans who came 1st ? Did they become a burden on society?? NO..there was no food stamps..No welfare..No unemployment ..No Social Security..no housing..no Health care.. All this crapola was added to gain power by those promising to give it and have someone else pay for it. Hate ? Then screw them..send them back.Their own countries DRIVE THEM AWAY knowing the STUPID AMERICANS will take then in. They hate us because they are NOT stupid and know who's playing who for what. Level the field.. enforce the laws evenly and totally without regard to race..gender or origin of birth. Then sit back and feel the love.
Illegals need to be removed not rewarded, and the anchor baby misinterpretation of the constitution needs to be eliminated to stop further nonsense. They can get in line just like everybody who didn't break the law, or stay the hell out!! If we are going to give special consideration, 6 years in the military if eligible, and after they maintain honorable status for that 6 year period, they can start their citizenship procedure. If they want to get an education they can do it then, using GI benefits, or their own savings. Stop the free gravy train BS for criminals!
And remember, they are paying for their own college educations. They are simply given the in-state versus out-of-state rates. So is any other person who moves here from another state....after they fulfill the residency requirements.
That's the thinking since the civil rights movement.. You might reread my post before going off the deep end.
I'd like to ask a general question....related in subject....to all of those who are against the in-state tuition: Why is it you don't make a big deal about the FREE public educations we provide them? After all, I don't know if you realize it or not, but schools cannot even require papers or ask them if they are here illegally. That's one of the biggest draws that has brought them here....along with opportunity; jobs, public school educations; hospital care; and to escape the dire situation of their own country. Again....the simple question is: why don't you make a big deal about the FREE public educations we provide them? Do you think allowing them to check their kids into our public schools; no questions asked... it's right/wrong....or are you indifferent about it?
Ah..No. They are not paying cash before each semester starts. They are paying by DEBT..which means those here legally will be picking up the tab. That means we are screwed twice..while they get a free education ..then walk away. Diversity it is called.. Or maybe someone can point out how they pay for that in state rate. Hint.. they dont.. Just like Health care.. those that can pay..pay more to cover those who cant. Again.. they are not legal in state residents. Fact that cannot be debated.
Of course he did, that's what Clinton would do. Not one other dem would say that. Of course since Perry revealed his stance on immigration he's gone down in the polls. Neo-cons don't like that stance. At least Perry was honest and upfront about it.
I am not a fan of illegals getting more than actual citzens , someone from New Hampshire should be able to attend shcool there for the same price as an illegal , total bullcrap
These young people were considered "residents" when they graduated from our high schools. They fulfilled the requirements for being a resident. Nothing in the rules about being legal. And after all....we WANT the ones who are smart enough to go on and get their college degrees to become citizens and stay. Better that than the free-loaders. BTW, how many illegals do you have there in Maine?
Boy my Bogus Alerts are about used up for today. This BS is just pandering to the Brown vote and future support. That's why both Perry and Paul wont get tough on sealing the border..they need to cater that vote to have any chance of victory. It is NO different than Mitt catering to liberals in order to win in Mass. Attending High school..further stressing our economic woes.. lowering test results..should not be a litmus test for citizenship. They are not the smart ones..they are the ones who benefited from the system.They are not the highest graduate %.. Stay ? why? So they can continue to get government health care..Housing..SS..welfare and food stamps ? maybe 2 years of unemployment ? What a life ?
I think it's so cute how Bill Clinton has to be in the limelight after all these years. The guy's self-esteem is so bad that he just can't help himself. I think he's got a man-crush on Rick Perry: Bill Clinton on Perry: He's a 'good-looking rascal' I don't have a problem giving undocumented immigrants in-state tuition rates as long as they obtain a student-visa. If they want to apply for citizenship, great. If not, they can go back to their home country when their visa runs out.
no We don't, we have very few , we do have them though , mostly Irish some Hispanics , they mostly live in Portland which is a sanctuary city
Someone please point that out to Paul in a debate ? " Representative Paul is it your belief that Sanctuary Cities are allowed under the Constitution and if elected would you Force Sanctuary cities to obey the written law ?.." It is time to ask Paul a few real questions.
Nope ..not since 1970 when the surge really started. Do you know Minnesota didn't have its 1st gang gun related drive by shooting until 1975.The year the Mexican gangs moved in. The past Presidents didn't have this problem. Since 1970 the governments of LATINO AMERICA have forced dissidents and poor out in order to remain in power. President FOX of Mexico said.."take back what was once ours " Mexico provides food and water..looks the other way as illegals cross THEIR BORDER in route through Mexico to America. I wonder if we boxed up our minorities and sent them to Canada if they would like it ? Hey..that's a great idea. O Canada we stand on guard for thee..
Nope. As the saying goes: The Democrats need them for votes and the Republicans need them for cheap labor.
Absolutely, they are here illegally and shouldn't rewarded for their criminal activity, and even if they are anchor babies their parents need to be deported immediately if not sooner, and should be required to take any illegal contraband (their children) with them. Why this isn't the government's standard operating procedure clearly shows how much the corporate influence to take advantage of illegal employment actually is, and Perry is right there to do his masters bidding.