Colorado Gov. Polis pushes back against CDC's coronavirus death counts

The Colorado Governor is a democrat lol. Oh and 130,000 compared to the 2-3 million projected deaths is a plus that we've lowered that curve tremendously.

 

Obviously, there is a chance of overcounting COVID deaths. But, there is important evidence that the count is actually too low. One big one is the number of excess deaths we see today as compared to last years. The spike in deaths doesn't have some other justification, especially since we're seeing a reduction in so many actividies and jobs and since we don't spend scarce tests on bodies that arrive DOA.

But, I think the larger issue is whether we're actually making progress - if the number of new cases is going down, our testing, tracking and isolation programs are being successful, if our practices are within guidelines that are considered necessary by experts (such as wearing masks, not congregating, etc.).

That's based on chang over time - which is more dependent on reporting consistency rather than raw numbers.

 

Gonna have to ask her...but maybe we should listen to the experts

 

Thanks for your sympathies, but I posted an example of a response.

 

I know that she said that CDC is counting the deaths of COVID positive patients as COVID deaths.

Fox has been loudly proclaiming that causes an major overcount.

Maybe that's the source of the "Blix says there is an overcount" claim.

 

It boils down to 100 experts VERSUS 100 opposing experts, and in an effort to please everyone, I've already suggested a lower/upper limit estimates, same as the Common Flu.

Estimated number of deaths; 130,000

Lower/Upper limit estimates; Between 110,000 and 150,000 deaths

Somewhat a compromise, however, will Trumpers agree to a lower limit estimate of 110,000 deaths, thus, an undercount of 20,000?

Absolutely not!, thus, **** em!







l.

 

My source is her. Maybe not presume things

 

In many cases, attributing a single "cause" of death becomes a gross oversimplification of the truth.

In many cases, there is more than just one cause of death, but multiple causes that interrelate with one another.

When someone who is already extremely old and extremely sick contracts COVID and then dies, the easy assumption to make is that they died from COVID.

Yet it's probably more accurate to classify their death as good-old-fashioned "natural causes".

COVID was just the straw that broke the proverbial camel's back.

 

Even if we take the numbers at face value, the survival rate for COVID is somewhere around 99.5%.

If this were more widely known, almost nobody would support the "social distancing" lunacy being imposed on the population.

But the media and the government have worked very hard to give people a false impression of the danger this virus poses.

 

If we used your model everyone dies of heart failure.

 

I don't see any disparity that would suggest that experts disagree.

There are several ways to measure and there are different reasons for usingr those methods and different strengths and weaknesses for them, too, depending on what question needs to be answered.

So, I suspect experts would choose different approaches based on what question is asked.

 

Deciding that the catastrophy in New York, New Jersey and other places is something that we should just accept hits me as not just plain stupid, but also a statement of psychosis.

A signifiant number of these deaths come from the ranks of medical workers who are dedicated to trying to save your 99%, while shipping out the hundreds of corpses of their failures. Yet we see doctors and nurses in risk groups return from retirement to give their all in keeping the death count as low as they can.

Plus, this must be extended to the first responders, grocery store workers, meat packers and others who are required to work regardless of personal safety - because WE want more pork, or whatver.

What's next? Are you going to propose death pannels, so we can just ignore those who will die without help?

 

Shouldn't the OFFICIAL CAUSE OF DEATH be whatever the attending doctor writes it up to be on the DEATH CERTIFICATE???? Isn't that what our laws require???

 

Maybe the governor thinks that ANY padding of the numbers is inappropriate, and a sign that something is wrong with the big picture?

Maybe he thinks that if he does not get accurate numbers he cannot make valid decisions?

If that's the case, I agree with him completely.

 

What about LIFE INSURANCE Companies which pay claims based on the doctors official listing of cause of death on the Death Certificate???