Comey transcript of closed-door interview with House committee released

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    By doing what?
     
  2. MissingMayor

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    Ok. I see what you were saying. I just don't think an obstruction case will be built around the firing of Comey. It would be more of asking him to stop an investigation and other efforts to deceive / hinder the investigations afterwards.
     
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    Comey is a damn joke. The more this ******* opens his mouth, the more we know firing him was a really good decision.

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    Even there, Comey's testimony about what the President said, and his reasoning wouldn't be strong reasoning in the court of law. According to Comey, the President's words were "Could you let this go?" Could is NOT an authoritative statement, no matter how much Comey would like to whine that it is. The President's suggestive comment was not in the form of an order, it was not issued as an order. And Comey's suggestion that because everyone was cleared out but him and Trump makes it any different is nonsensical.

    Comey's "feelings" is not the basis of a criminal court case. And even the idiot himself knows that, though he doesn't want to admit it. That's why he continually says he can't say. In reality, he knows(as he knew when he originally testified to the Senate as I said dog whimpering with his tail between his legs). Not to mention the memos were supposed to be confidential information and his leaks of those. That's an issue I'm sure the IG will examine as well.

    That brings us to whether Trump's various tweets and comments on the investigation. That would be the case, if the investigative team can show they relied on Trump's twitter feed throughout the course of the investigation lol. Or if one can say that by getting "Trump Republicans to believe he's minnocent" that would be impeding or obstructing the investigation. Yeah, that's an equally hard sell IMO.

    No one legitimately believes that Trump's twitter had any impact on the investigation. In other court cases, judges made the argument(the retarded argument IMO) that they'd have to rule opposite of the President, because to rule with the President would infer a political factor into the Courts(that we all know exists, but if they ruled along with the POTUS it would erase any and all doubt.)

    Frankly, Thomas Jefferson was aware of the civil conflict between the Courts and the State. Trump's outspoken statements just make it glaringly obvious. That might be Trump's most positive contribution. All of the problems of our country, magnified tenfold.
     
  5. Zorro

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    Trump did nothing wrong. Comey is a liar who violated his oath by misusing his office to illegal spy on Trump and to obstruct justice with Hillary. And he is crooked Mueller's protege.

    Comey's Testimony For You

    A lot of unremembering, a lot of dissembling, and a lot of incompetency.

    Read the whole thread at twitchy.

    Or read Atkisson's full article at Epoch Times.

    But here's a couple of important points:

    Comey confirmed that controversial FBI lovers Peter Strzok and Lisa Page served both on the team investigating Hillary Clinton’s email practices and the team investigating Trump-Russia connections (p. 18).​

    Comey says he would not have allowed Strzok and Page to serve on the Hillary email investigation if he had known about their private communications (p. 18).

    Analysis: This appears to be an acknowledgment that the FBI investigation was tainted, or has the appearance of being tainted, by bias...

    Comey said he doesn't remember if the FBI asked State Department employee Bryan Pagliano who instructed him to set up Clinton's unusual private server. Comey says he doesn’t remember who Paul Combetta is (pp. 199-201).

    Note: Combetta was involved in maintaining at least one of Clinton’s private servers. He destroyed subpoenaed email evidence, then is said to have lied to the FBI about doing so.

    Context: The FBI granted Pagliano, Combetta and other Clinton associates immunity from prosecution. Typically, immunity is granted in return for information to prosecute others, but no such information was obtained from the immunized officials in the Clinton email probe.

    Comey says he doesn't remember why the FBI granted Pagliano immunity (pp. 199-201).

    Comey says he doesn't know if the FBI interviewed State Department official Patrick Kennedy (p. 204).

    Comey acknowledged that FBI general counsel James Baker originally believed it was appropriate to charge Hillary Clinton with violating various laws regarding the mishandling of classified information (p. 230).

    Note: Baker later changed his mind.

    Comey says he sees no further reason to investigate Hillary Clinton's handling of classified email and claims "There's no serious person who thinks there's a prosecutable case there"(p. 84).

    It gets worse

    Comey says he doesn't know who drafted the FBI document initiating the Russia probe (p. 24).

    Note: It was Peter Strzok who drafted the document.

    Comey says he doesn't think he ever read the FBI document launching the probe and doesn't remember the FBI’s stated "predicate" for it (pp. 24, 26-27, 30).

    Note: A "predicate" is the justification or basis. The FBI is prohibited from starting up investigation on hunches or suspicions and must follow strict procedures.

    Analysis: As FBI Director, Comey is saying he didn't read the documents that opened what arguably became one of the FBI's most important investigations ever, and he didn't what the justification for opening it was
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    It's all damning, but in this section, James Comey agrees he didn't follow the Woods Protocols for obtaining a FISA -- but it's not really even an admission, because he doesn't even seem aware that there are protocols that the DOJ and FBI are required to follow in the first place.

    Comey says he's not sure how Steele’s dossier got to the FBI. Comey says he doesn’t know what steps the FBI took to verify Steele's information before or after the FBI presented it to the FISA court. He says the FBI was still "evaluating" the information months after using it in court. Comey says the FBI made efforts to identify Steele’s sources, but he doesn’t remember if they were able to (p. 115, 118).

    Comey says he reviewed and signed the Oct. 21, 2016, FBI wiretap application against Carter Page. Comey says he didn't know details, he simply signed off procedurally. He doesn't remember if the paperwork was entitled "verified application." Comey remembers the FBI alleged Page was working for or with the Russian government, but Comey doesn't recall if the application mentioned "probable cause" (pp. 113, 121, 123).

    Analysis: The issue of "verification" of the dossier is crucial. Intel sources say presenting a single unverified fact to the FISA court violates the FBI's strict Woods Procedures installed to prevent the FBI from obtaining wiretaps based on false or questionable information. There seems to be no recognition by Comey or anyone else of these important FBI rules or how the FBI apparently violated them. Comey appears to have taken a surprisingly hands-off approach in terms of oversight when it came to the controversial wiretapping of a political campaign associate in an election year.

    When Comey signed off the wiretap, he says the FBI’s corroboration of Steele's information was "in its infancy" or only "minimally corroborated.”"Comey acknowledges he signed off on the wiretap as "verified" even though the information was unverified. He said he did so because the information came from "a reliable source" with "a good track record" (p. 126).

    Note: Steele is a former British intelligence agent.​
     
  6. Andrew Jackson

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    And?

    What do you conclude from this warmed-over copypasta?
     
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    Comey Lied

    James Comey is a serial liar and arguably a serial felon who supervised and directed Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, and Lisa Page in an organized deep state coup to keep Hillary Clinton out of prison and Donald Trump out of the White House.
     
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    None of your post is supported by the nonsense you posted.
     
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    The whole thing blew up on the R's when Comey won the right to release the transcript. It was supposed to be the republicans on TV taking Comey out of context. Instead it's Comey on TV insinuating Trump should be impeached.
     
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    Its either Comey lied or he has to be the most incompetent brain dead FBI director that ever held the position
    your choice
     
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    no if you would actually read the dam transcript it exposes the FBI corruption
    Like him acknowledging the Dossier was never verified and that they were aware it was Clinton bought and paid for opposition research on Trump
    that was never disclosed to the court in the warrant application was filed
     
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    Where in this clip does Comey insinuate Trump should be impeached, he's saying the opposite. But you Libs keep dreaming and pushing impeachment it is going to blow up in your collective faces.
     
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    They see what they want to see.

    Alinsky RULE 10: “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog. (Unions used this tactic. Peaceful [albeit loud] demonstrations during the heyday of unions in the early to mid20th Century incurred management’s wrath, often in the form of violence that eventually brought public sympathy to their side.)
     
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    Sure it was. You can read the FISA applications now. Go look.
     
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    I read the transcript. It says nothing of the such. Parts of the dossier were verified. That is the small part they used in the FISA.

    The part with the pee tape they didn't care about.
     
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    I'm still mystified why people feel compelled to die charging up Carter Page Hill?? Surely there are actual situations with more smoke than this issue out there... Although it's still not a huge issue in the grand scheme of things, even Strzok/Page texts have more smell than the FISA warrant on Carter Page...

    If ANYTHING had come out of the FISA warrant surveillance that was used in court or to arrest somebody, then you might have a chance of raising the meter from zero, but it hasn't...
     
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    Pretty cleaver isn't it.
    You missed this part.
    But if the facts are there and congress thinks so that's it.
     
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    Because he didn't remember the name of some tech guy involved in an investigation from 3 years ago? You really shouldn't try to double down on what Zorro posts.
     
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    LOL, they may not have cared that much, but don't think there weren't some snickers over that at the FBI.... just like the rest of the country imagining that scene...

    Knowing the man today, it's just seems so representative of who he is
     
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    Lol, still living in fantasyland, eh? Trump will be in prison before Hillary will.
     
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    Lol, good luck! Isn’t it funny how Republicans advocate for a Police State to serve the whims of politicians and their emotionally-driven constituents?
     
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    Sure man. Trump is going to prison where he belongs.
     
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    Interviewer: What do you believe is the best effective way of removing this president prior to 2020?
    Comey: From my understanding the DOJ is long at the position that the President can’t be indicted.
    Then later referring to his book, he says, "In a way I hope Donald Trump is not Impeached."
     
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    Trump will die a free man.As fot Hillary,I couldn"t care less.Just pointing at double standards.Some people are allowed to get away with the murder.The law isn't applied equally applied That's the U.S justice system.Some animals are more equal than others.
     
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    Thats a pretty funny comment coming from the party who put 14 Democrats on a witch hunt agenda with Mueller. If Dems were even asking for fairness they would have included a few republicans but we are supposed to turn our heads because its what the Democrats want.
     
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