Conclusive proof that it is Trump's policy to separate children from their families at the border

No one seeking asylum at the port of entries is being incarcerated.

 

The administration officials blamed Democrats for creating the “loopholes” that allow illegal immigration to continue and force them to separate children from their parents. But Republicans, and the Supreme Court, all played a part in creating that system.

The officials cited four main reasons for the current system. The first, a 1997 settlement agreement that limits to 20 days how long undocumented families can be held in detention, was brokered by the Clinton Justice Department.


But the second, the William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008, was unanimously passed by both chambers of Congress and signed into law by President George W. Bush.

The third was a 2001 Supreme Court ruling that ended the practice of indefinite detentions for undocumented immigrants facing deportation whose home countries would not accept them.

And the fourth was generally described as the asylum laws of the U.S., a practice that goes back decades and includes international agreements dating back to the 1950s. The current asylum system in the U.S. was enshrined in the Refugee Act of 1980, which was sponsored by Rep. Lamar Smith, R-Texas, and approved by the GOP-controlled House and Senate.....snip~


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...eparated-immigrant-children-policy/651049002/

 

So, we should just take people at their word when they claim who they are, where they're from, who their kids are and why they need help? Hmmmm. That doesn't work for citizens. Does a bank approve a loan just because you tell them you're responsible? NOPE!!! Does a school accept you as the parent/guardian if you can't prove who you are and where you live? NOPE!!! Can I get a job(professional) without providing detailed documents as to who I am and what my accomplishments are? NOPE!!! Should I go on? Why not. Depending on the cost of a TV, Best Buy won't even accept a CC unless you have ID to go along with it. Why can't they just take my word for it, that I'm me? Can I rent a simple book from the library without proving I live in the city? NOPE!!!

But Liberals think we should just accept that anyone trying to cross our border are exactly who they claim, and we should just let them in as long as they promise to show up in a few months for a hearing? Give me a ****ing break!!!!

20% of illegal kids just disappear into the country when we let them through because those "caring" for them don't want to be found!!! Probably more.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/29/poli...reports-of-lost-immigrant-children/index.html

37% not showing up to court. And its probably worse than the study.
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/immigration/article144893699.html

Yeah, lets just let MORE in. What a genius idea!

 

yeah, basically, theyre jails.

 

if they cross the border and not at a port of entry they broke the law plain and simple doesn't matter the reason why the crossed the border
same as If I robbed a grocery store doesn't matter if I did so to feed my kids or buy drugs it is robbery a crime

 

The families should be kept together.

 

This is not a law, it is an interpretation of a law, i.e. a policy. And no, it does not predate Trump.

That's the point of the OP.

 

The only group that supports Trump on this policy are Republicans. And even then, it is not a majority of Republicans.

 

Are you sure of that?

 

You would demand that people running here to seek asylum from drug lords, serial abusers, and gangs know the "port of entry" aspect of the asylum law?

 

Optics, all about the optics. Red shoes match in the background, too.

 

they are being detained because they broke the law so in essence yes it is serving the function as a jail
Now about due process because these illegal aliens have entered the system under federal immigration laws there is no procedures in place for arraignment and bail isn't not in the law that would have to be done in federal criminal courts
that being said immigration courts should have arraignment and bail and that bail should be expensive to guarantee they will show up to their immigration hearing which as of now 90% never do proving catch and release with just a promise they will show up in court is a fail and why now they are being detained till the hearing

 

And you want special rights for them and special treatment for them. We separate children of US citizens, why don't you care about those children your heart only bleeds for children of illegal aliens?

Law enforcement and the executive branch are sworn to uphold the laws as passed by the Congress.

You can wipe the egg off your face now I did nothing of the sort and called forbhis and th others arrest and prosecution. Best to know of what you speak before you engage in you attempts to deflect.

 

Oh **** that "child actor" conspiracy bullshit. Why don't you post some "sandy hook" crisis actor pictures while you're at it.

 

yes

 

I really hate this idiotic argument. You are comparing individuals who have gone through trials by jury and judge where their kids have family members and processes in place for the rare exception when those children have no other provider to families traveling across deserts and immediately seized and then separated from the only family or friends that they have within hundreds of miles and placed into prison camps.

 

Not only are they Trump supporters but many of them also say that they follow Christian values.

 

Even when english is not a native language? And you would be willing to send those individuals directly back into the teeth of the threat that they just ran from because they did not know about some technical aspect of the law?

Do you also demand that police give tickets to people who travel 57 in a 55?

 

So we don't separate the children of US citizens when those adults are detained by law enforcement Jr is it only "inhumane" ifbitbis an illegal alien?

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Yes they are using the children as pawns against the Trump administration.

 

You believe that if someone commits a crime and they have children they cannot be incarcerated or if they are the children must be put in the jail with them?

 

No one wants to answer that question. They keep trying to make distinctions without merit which only digs their hole deeper.

 

Yes they are using the children as pawns against the Trump administration.[/QUOTE]

You have to understand that the leftness along with the Neo Cons and some emotionally twisted Repubs. Want the illegal alien children in jail cells with their parents. Either that or they want Trump to say **** the law.

To bad their catch 22 backfired on them.


http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ren-put-in-jail-cells.535391/#post-1069228476

 

Most Americans - Republicans, Independents, Democrats, religious leaders right, left, and centre - are so disgusted by Trump's foul practice of snatching children from parents that the Trump regime has 1) denied they are doing it, 2) cherry-picked the bible for slavery-defending quotes to justify what they say they are not doing 3) brayed fake claims that Democrats are making them do it, and 4) in a "Stop me before I snatch again!" cry for help try their "It's the law!" rationale.

Of course, that ploy is demolished by their underscoring the reality of the administrative discretion that they exercise in not deporting the 11 million undocumented folks in the US.

Laws are always selectively enforced, and humanitarian consideration regularly modifies rigid bureaucratic inflexibility.

This morally-repugnant behaviour is a big loser for Republicans in November, and hyper-partisan Democrats must be giddy over Trumpies' impotence in stopping themselves.

 

Yep and a Demo from Texas came out Saturday blaming BO the peep and his Administration.

 

Yes I bet you do because it demonstrated tbe hypocracy of your position and that of the left/MSM/Dems.

I'm including people who have been detained by law enforcement awaiting arrignment, can't make bail and yes having been convicted. How does that make it less humane and less unamerican to cop a few of the terms being tossed around? These immigrant children are being placed just like the American kids who are placed into juvenile detention while being placed.