Condoleezza Rice: NFL Players Must Voice Concerns Without 'Alienating' People

Why I oppose the Clinton Crime Foundation/Family

 

Respect for America includes veterans but is not limited to them

 

Perhaps you should stop raising the flag and playing the anthem .... that way you won't disrespect ANYONE. Raising the flag and playing the anthem disrespects those who are taking a knee and it disrespects me as a war veteran. I don't know why you want to disrespect people. It isn't very nice.

 

Anyone who does not respect this country deserves all the disrespect that can be heaped upon them

 

Cig13,

Condi’s support of the Invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq are not war crimes. They could be considered moral crimes, but they are not war crimes.

 

The mock trial in Malaysia is their equivalent to a non-bidding resolution that is often given by the United States House of Representatives; toothless. As for me not caring about the resolution, I do not and I only responded because it was posted on the message board, so I responded to the post. Bush and Rice still travel where they please, so again the measure is toothless, or should I post the hilarious TOOFLESS?

 

Shoving the flag in someone's face is disrespecting. So if you just stop disrespecting people then everyone will be happy. I am a veteran. But even if you don't want to respect me you can just stop forcing the flag down peoples throats then there will be no disrespect for anyone. I like football but I don't stand for the flag. I refuse. I want to see a good game of football. If you don't like football you don't have to come to the games. You can join the military instead and watch the flag go up every day. I was in the Army for 3 years. I've seen enough flags. Now all I want to do is watch football.

 

No one is "shoving the flag" in your face and you know it

If we cant at least holster our weapons and be one country for a brief minute of mutual respect because liberals are so filled with hate then this great country is finished

 

Any government employee, elected official or otherwise, as an individual or in concert, that attacks the US Constitution is a domestic enemy of that constitution and its principles, and deserves no respect, but only condemnation.

Like it or not, and I don't like it, today's US government is a criminal organization. By way of legislation it has attacked that document. I am more than ashamed of my government, and I object to my paltry tax contributions being spent on military aggression.

It deserves no respect from anybody. Instead of draining the swamp, Donald has only deepened it and expanded it.

 

You ate a typical liberal who can always dial up some excuse for hating America

 

Not really. The difference between you and me is that while I know and recognize the difference between my country and its government, you do not recognize that difference.

 

True.

The RW has a problem with that distinction.

(That goes x1000 for Trumpettes).

 

No, liberals are ones who hate their country when the government does not go their way

I still saluted the flag all the miserable years obama was in the white house

 

Well heck, let's put you up for a Bronze Star.

I'm registered Republican FYI. See how wrong you can be?

 

There are liberal republicans

 

You deny that the players are being coerced into standing for the flag?

Liberals? Is that who's putting on all of the pressure with their guns drawn to make the players stand?

Which country are you speaking about?

And will you still attend football games even if the players do not stand for the flag?

 

I think you missed the point both myself and Mac-7 were making. ALL sources of revenue come from the fans. Take away the fans, you take away all sources of revenue. Mac is correct when he said "the public pays every dollar that the players get." How you can dispute that is a bit baffling.

 

I guess you didn't read what I wrote about SPONSERED ACTS OF PATRIOTISM. It would be baffling to me if you were to claim that military slush payments originated as tax money and therefore "payed by the fans".

We can argue that if you like but in the end it makes no difference one way or the other. Players are not getting payed to stand for the flag. Players are not getting paid to put their hand over their hearts. Players are getting paid to play professional football. That's their job. If it is important to you to force the players to do those things then I suppose you don't really love sports at all. Maybe if you payed each player a bonus ....... just for the ones who stand and an additional bonus to those who put their hand over their heart.

 

To STAND or NOT to STAND: Here are the Alternatives

1). Allow the players to do as they wish

2). Pay individual players a bonus for standing

Unfortunately, neither of these are problem-free because the REAL ISSUE is not addressed: ENVY. I lived in West Berlin during the Cold War. One day in the centre of the city I walked across the street against the red light because there were no cars coming. But as I reached the opposite curb an old woman standing there looked me straight in the eyes and said,

* “If I have to wait, mein Herr, then you must wait too!”

I was amused that an old woman could make such a childish statement. And here I see it again,

* “If we have to stand then the players must stand too!”

ENVY. That’s all it is. So my choice is this last one.

3). Let the players wait out the national anthem in the locker room just like they’ve always done up until 2009. This way, what the spectators do not see cannot hurt them.

 

I'm well aware of the story. But you overplay it's importance; the whole stunt was nothing more than the military acting like just another advertiser. In the end, if fan support, merchandise sales, and ratings drop like a rock, every advertiser paying money to get their product air time during an NFL game - and that includes the military - will pull out simply because they're not getting any bang for their buck.

 

Are you denying that SPONSERED ACTS OF PATRIOTISM exist? A simple yes or no will do.

 

I just posted a link to it and said the military sponsored an ad campaign promoting such at sports events. How did you miss that?

 

I always saluted the American flag even during the failed regimes of traitors like bush/reagan/dumpster

 

So you were wrong when you said,"the public pays every dollar that the players get."
Don't worry about it. Everyone makes mistakes. I made a mistake once myself when I enlisted in the Army back in 1965.

So, which one of my three "To STAND or NOT to STAND Alternatives" do like best?

 

Ha-ha! Good one! Do you salute when you watch football on TV? I only ask because some Americans threaten to leave the TV off when the games are played because they don't like it when the players don't stand and salute.