Congressman fights to ban sick ‘child sex dolls’

I've simply pointed out that the "experts" deem pedophilia to be a "sexual orientation" No matter how abhorrent I might personally find pedophilia to be, and have no restraint for pedophiles, if the experts deem it a "sexual orientation" then it MUST be treated like other deviant "sexual orientations".

When progressive folks decided that a sexual choice would be re-labeled as a "sexual orientation" , and wrote anti-discrimination laws protecting deviant sexual lifestyles, it is discriminatory to the very core to not offer those protections to ALL SEXUAL DEVIANCIES.

What we've already seen in this thread is liberty-loving folks like myself torn because we despise pedophiles but believe that they should have the right to buy whatever sex toy that they want. On the other hand, a homosexual has posted within this thread that basically says that since he has his special privileges, he doesn't think pedophiles should get them or in other words, the homosexual is discriminating due to sexual orientation.

 

The argument is that the use of the doll would increase their longing for children, and make them more likely to prey on children.

 

Child porn is illegal because to produce it, you are victimizing at least one child. Cartoon child porn is legal for that reason.

 

punishment before a crime

 

The problem with sentencing child rapists to death is that they will be more likely to murder their victims. After all, there is no difference in penalty, why not kill the only witness?

 

I understand why it's illegal for the singular reason it involves a child, I was only referring to it as an "outlet" for those "predisposed" to child pedophilia. I say it is not a deterrent or reducer of that crime any more than a child sex doll would be. My opinion only.

Cartoon child porn should be illegal as well. Why? Because living in a free society does not mean prudent measures to disallow some freedoms should not be in place for the decency of human nature and for the protection of children in that society. They have to be, and some depraved practices should fall into that category of being forbidden. Which is why strip clubs are zoned and prostitution is illegal, etc.

 

It is not God that makes the pedophile?

 

This does nothing for me. I am sure “experts” think legalized abortion is better than the alternative. And some “experts” say it is wrong to have more children because each one increases the effects of global warming. (That was just in article this week which is as perverted as it gets.) Or in the words of Bishop Fulton Sheen - - “Moral principles do not depend on a majority vote. Wrong is wrong, even if everybody is wrong. Right is right, even if nobody is right.”

I grant you have reasoned this our for yourself, but for me this is nonsense. If there is such a thing as natural moral law (beyond just murder and stealing) then some sexual deviancies should be equally guarded against. By allowing it, it will foster and affect many who may not ever have indulged.

 

That's the argument being made but we have no way of knowing one way or the other.

 

God made and granted humankind free will. And also put us on earth where this is a trial. We are given an ego (for our pleasure but also to our detriment) and a conscience (for our knowing what is right and what is wrong). Why you would single out pedophilia as the only sin man struggles with is not necessary.

 

We have government studies on everything. Why not one to determine if these dolls increase, decrease, or have no affect on the likelihood of someone committing sex crimes against children?

I'm part libertarian and I abhor government bans. But if government is going to ban anything, maybe these dolls should be at the top of the list.

 

the bible says God is not perfect he aborted his children last time except for a boat load

 

Notice where all the conservatives are falling on this. Their vaunted FFREEDDOOOOMMM is once again revealed to be nothing but the liberty to starve to death if you can't find work because you are old or sick and their "small government" is once again somehow big enough to watch us all for "deviant" sexuality. How long before ALL sexuality becomes "depraved" and we become like the Shakers or the Skoptsi, totally pure, abstinent from all sex, and dead.

 

I have not voiced my opinion here, just looking for equal treatment based upon laws.

Personally, when you look at the suicide and attempted suicide rate of those who choose the homosexual lifestyle, it's clear that it's a mental disorder and we need to help those people. The same with cross dressers, pedophiles and necrophiles.

Christians, of which I am one, sat idly by refusing to believe that progressives (liberals/Democrats) were harming society. We now have men using restrooms with little girls, Christians being forced to participate and service homosexual-themed events and policy-makers have made rules based upon a gay sex life.

Oh, it's also OK to kill unborn babies.

Whenever I see articles like the one in the OP that discusses pedophilia, it must be used to call attention to how wrong it is to support any deviant sexual lifestyle. With respect to pedophilia, the numbers show that a man who engages in gay-sex, is 14x more likely to be a pedophile than one who engages in heterosexual sex. We're not supposed to discuss that because it reveals that a mental illness is the root issue. There really is a correlation between gay-sex and pedophilia.

 

Vanity does not speak for conservatives. Her POV is poorly reasoned and arrogant. All is good and well with the religious zealots - until their behaviors are considered bad for society.

 

God did the choosing, who are we to second guess God Are you one of those who believes we can remake the world as so much better if we are just willing to kill enough people?

 

the question would then be isn't it God who makes

murderers
rapists
thieves
adulterers
homosexuals
abortionists
etc

the truth be known, it is FREE WILL and people decide to engage in gay sex, pick up that first drink on their way to alcoholism, break the window to steal from a home and to assault a child.

A little morality would go a long way.

 

nope

speaks for her/himself but does reflect Christian dogma. A conservative is however grounded in faith and understands that pedophilia as well as homsoexuality are sicknesses and not normal behavior.

 

Maybe you need to realize we do not live in a black and white world. Some decisions and some tough choices have to be made, not avoided. And those issues have merit and fault on both sides of the matter, yet, a moral judgement must be made for the good of society. Do you need examples? How about the age of consent or speed limits? How about what drugs are legal and which are not? Yes, society needs government for obvious reasons but in what capacity becomes another judgment call. To suggest conservatives (or as I read it, Christians) do care for the needy less than a liberal or secular mind is ludicrous. Just because we do not believe all hand outs are a good idea, even for the recipient, does not make us less of a caring citizen than you.

 

I think we all agree on that point. The issue is, however, one of liberty and not one of faith.

 

You must be joking! pedophilia is ILLEGAL, homosexual is NOT no matter how much you wish it to be. What a twisted way to condone this sick sick product.

 

I say make the dolls. And instead of cringing make the dolls the most awesome thing ever for a pedophile. Make them so awesome a real child cannot be as good. Why bother with a real child if the doll simulates everything perfectly for the Pedo?

 

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Yes, you'd think it would keep us from letting poor people starve, old and sick people die, and dropping high explosives on children. Murderers, rapist and thieves have actually DONE SOMETHING to merit their punishment. A pedophile with a doll has hurt NOBODY, has indeed, gone out of his way and spent considerable funds to prevent himself from doing so

(I love how you blithely include homosexuals right in there with all the other moral reprobates. I hear that black people are much more likely to commit suicide too, sounds like a mental illness to me)

 

For such an unimaginable thing I have to take a similar pause. What is the legal premise for banning them? What legal principle? Do they harm someone? Do they cause someone to harm someone? Is what you use if for a crime?

Maybe make the purchasers register them in a public registry?................tough one.

 

But they do indicate a propensity for sex with a minor child so make the purchasers register as a potential child sex offender???? I don't know.