no one is killing anyone, no one has been born yet the answer is, if she is old enough to be forced to have a baby, she is old enough to decide not too
You don't have to he born to be killed DUH. Apparently I have stumped you and you can't defend your position here. Oh well. Didn't think you could.
actually you do.... every tombstone has a birthdate and a death date if you have life insurance for your children, it does not cover anyone not born
Women have rights. So do the unborn children. You want to kill unborn children. Many do not. It is YOUR OPINION versus the OPINION OF OTHERS. There is no absolute answer here. That's why its best for the VOTERS to decide. You say that your opponents want to deny women's rights. Your opponents say you want to murder the unborn children. There is no right or wrong here. Just OPINION. So let the voters decide in each state.
FoxHastings said: ↑ Democracy is when ALL American citizens have the same rights....taking away women's right to their own bodies ( a basic right) is NOT democracy. That is why states canNOT make slavery legal even if the people in them want slaves.. , the law and Constitution should rule...Did you forget this is the UNITED States? So if a state wants slavery it can't just vote it in. OMYGAWD....loss of bodily autonomy is slavery...it is what happened to slaves... And women are equal citizens who should have full rights whether pregnant or not.. Banning abortion IS taking away a woman's right to her own body. The fetus is NOT YOURS or your neighbors or politicians or Big Government ...it belongs to the woman alone, her body, her fetus. It has no "right to life"...SHE DOES OK, you don't want to address facts....that's typical of Anti-Choicers. How you can say that women have "full rights" when you want to abolish their main right is an example.... and hilarious if it wasn't so tragic for women. YOU and others opposed to abortion want the FETUS to have MORE rights than anyone else!!! You want a fetus to have the right to use another's body without their consent.... NO ONE ELSE CAN DO THAT... Is it because you don't think women should have full rights? GEE, you said so above!!!! Why couldn't you address the following?: OMYGAWD....loss of bodily autonomy is slavery...it is what happened to slaves... And women are equal citizens who should have full rights whether pregnant or not.. DON'T YOU AGREE ???? Banning abortion IS taking away a woman's right to her own body. The fetus is NOT YOURS or your neighbors or politicians or Big Government ...it belongs to the woman alone, her body, her fetus. So if a state wants slavery it can't just vote it in? Why couldn't you answer that There is an absolute, the unborn are not legal persons. I know you didn't bother to read my post you quoted (might run into a scary FACT!) but try to read the following. IF a fetus has the rights of the born then it also has the restrictions of the born...it CANNOT use another's body to sustain it's life without their consent. NOW, do give me your OPINION on that....quit dodging by parroting , ""Leave it to the states , leave it to the states !!!"""
The issue is simple: A woman's right to control her body versus an unborn child's right to live. The solution is elusive at best. If you can come up with a solution that guarantees a woman's right to control her body while AT THE SAME TIME guaranteeing an unborn child's right to live, the whole world would love to hear it. Until then... VOTE! By the way, your constant, emotional reference to slavery is very triggering... and irrelevant. No one's life was ever saved through slavery.
FoxHastings said: ↑ Democracy is when ALL American citizens have the same rights....taking away women's right to their own bodies ( a basic right) is NOT democracy. That is why states canNOT make slavery legal even if the people in them want slaves.. , the law and Constitution should rule...Did you forget this is the UNITED States? So if a state wants slavery it can't just vote it in. OMYGAWD....loss of bodily autonomy is slavery...it is what happened to slaves... And women are equal citizens who should have full rights whether pregnant or not.. Banning abortion IS taking away a woman's right to her own body. The fetus is NOT YOURS or your neighbors or politicians or Big Government ...it belongs to the woman alone, her body, her fetus. It has no "right to life"...SHE DOES OK, you don't want to address facts....that's typical of Anti-Choicers. How you can say that women have "full rights" when you want to abolish their main right is an example.... and hilarious if it wasn't so tragic for women. YOU and others opposed to abortion want the FETUS to have MORE rights than anyone else!!! You want a fetus to have the right to use another's body without their consent.... NO ONE ELSE CAN DO THAT... Is it because you don't think women should have full rights? GEE, you said so above!!!! Why couldn't you address the following?: OMYGAWD....loss of bodily autonomy is slavery...it is what happened to slaves... And women are equal citizens who should have full rights whether pregnant or not.. DON'T YOU AGREE ???? Banning abortion IS taking away a woman's right to her own body. The fetus is NOT YOURS or your neighbors or politicians or Big Government ...it belongs to the woman alone, her body, her fetus. So if a state wants slavery it can't just vote it in? Why couldn't you answer that There is an absolute, the unborn are not legal persons. I know you didn't bother to read my post you quoted (might run into a scary FACT!) but try to read the following. IF a fetus has the rights of the born then it also has the restrictions of the born...it CANNOT use another's body to sustain it's life without their consent. NOW, do give me your OPINION on that....quit dodging by parroting , ""Leave it to the states , leave it to the states !!!""" There is NO "versus"...a born person has rights, the unborn have none. No, the solution is simple...women should have the same right YOU and everyone else has....and FORCING them to gestate takes away their rights. The unborn have no rights....they can't because any rights they MAY have are negated by the woman's rights....AND YOU WANT FETUSES TO HAVE MORE RIGHTS THAN ANYONE ELSE....HOW ODD !!!!!!! Obviously you couldn't get the analogy....and , as usual you are making up stuff....I NEVER SAID ANYONE'S LIFE WAS SAVED THROUGH SLAVERY....are you really that confused ???
I do NOT want a fetus to have more rights than anyone else. That is simply not true. I want women to have control of her body. I also want the unborn to have the right to live. I don't want either one to have MORE rights, I want them to have the SAME rights. YOUR OPINION about unborn children is simply YOUR OPINION. NOT EVERYONE's OPINION. You have no respect for anyone's opinion BUT YOUR OWN. That's scary. Your reference to slavery remain irrelevant.
FoxHastings said: ↑ Democracy is when ALL American citizens have the same rights....taking away women's right to their own bodies ( a basic right) is NOT democracy. That is why states canNOT make slavery legal even if the people in them want slaves.. , the law and Constitution should rule...Did you forget this is the UNITED States? So if a state wants slavery it can't just vote it in. OMYGAWD....loss of bodily autonomy is slavery...it is what happened to slaves... And women are equal citizens who should have full rights whether pregnant or not.. Banning abortion IS taking away a woman's right to her own body. The fetus is NOT YOURS or your neighbors or politicians or Big Government ...it belongs to the woman alone, her body, her fetus. It has no "right to life"...SHE DOES OK, you don't want to address facts....that's typical of Anti-Choicers. How you can say that women have "full rights" when you want to abolish their main right is an example.... and hilarious if it wasn't so tragic for women. YOU and others opposed to abortion want the FETUS to have MORE rights than anyone else!!! You want a fetus to have the right to use another's body without their consent.... NO ONE ELSE CAN DO THAT... Is it because you don't think women should have full rights? GEE, you said so above!!!! Why couldn't you address the following?: OMYGAWD....loss of bodily autonomy is slavery...it is what happened to slaves... And women are equal citizens who should have full rights whether pregnant or not.. DON'T YOU AGREE ???? Banning abortion IS taking away a woman's right to her own body. The fetus is NOT YOURS or your neighbors or politicians or Big Government ...it belongs to the woman alone, her body, her fetus. So if a state wants slavery it can't just vote it in? Why couldn't you answer that There is an absolute, the unborn are not legal persons. I know you didn't bother to read my post you quoted (might run into a scary FACT!) but try to read the following. IF a fetus has the rights of the born then it also has the restrictions of the born...it CANNOT use another's body to sustain it's life without their consent. NOW, do give me your OPINION on that....quit dodging by parroting , ""Leave it to the states , leave it to the states !!!""" There is NO "versus"...a born person has rights, the unborn have none. No, the solution is simple...women should have the same right YOU and everyone else has....and FORCING them to gestate takes away their rights. The unborn have no rights....they can't because any rights they MAY have are negated by the woman's rights....AND YOU WANT FETUSES TO HAVE MORE RIGHTS THAN ANYONE ELSE....HOW ODD !!!!!!! Obviously you couldn't get the analogy....and , as usual you are making up stuff....I NEVER SAID ANYONE'S LIFE WAS SAVED THROUGH SLAVERY....are you really that confused ??? Yes, you do ...you want it to be able to use another's body to sustain it's life and NO ONE ELSE HAS THAT RIGHT. That is not possible....if abortion is banned then the fetus has more rights than the woman. When an opinion is such that it threatens people's basic human rights, you are correct, I have no respect for it. No, it is very relevant ....slaves are slaves because they have lost the right to bodily autonomy EXCATLY what Anti-Choicers want to do to women.
FoxHastings said: ↑ Democracy is when ALL American citizens have the same rights....taking away women's right to their own bodies ( a basic right) is NOT democracy. That is why states canNOT make slavery legal even if the people in them want slaves.. , the law and Constitution should rule...Did you forget this is the UNITED States? So if a state wants slavery it can't just vote it in ? OMYGAWD....loss of bodily autonomy is slavery...it is what happened to slaves... And women are equal citizens who should have full rights whether pregnant or not.. Banning abortion IS taking away a woman's right to her own body. The fetus is NOT YOURS or your neighbors or politicians or Big Government ...it belongs to the woman alone, her body, her fetus. It has no "right to life"...SHE DOES OK, you don't want to address facts....that's typical of Anti-Choicers. How you can say that women have "full rights" when you want to abolish their main right is an example.... and hilarious if it wasn't so tragic for women. YOU and others opposed to abortion want the FETUS to have MORE rights than anyone else!!! You want a fetus to have the right to use another's body without their consent.... NO ONE ELSE CAN DO THAT... Is it because you don't think women should have full rights? GEE, you said so above!!!! Why couldn't you address the following?: OMYGAWD....loss of bodily autonomy is slavery...it is what happened to slaves... And women are equal citizens who should have full rights whether pregnant or not.. DON'T YOU AGREE ???? Banning abortion IS taking away a woman's right to her own body. The fetus is NOT YOURS or your neighbors or politicians or Big Government ...it belongs to the woman alone, her body, her fetus. So if a state wants slavery it can't just vote it in? Why couldn't you answer that There is an absolute, the unborn are not legal persons. I know you didn't bother to read my post you quoted (might run into a scary FACT!) but try to read the following. IF a fetus has the rights of the born then it also has the restrictions of the born...it CANNOT use another's body to sustain it's life without their consent. NOW, do give me your OPINION on that....quit dodging by parroting , ""Leave it to the states , leave it to the states !!!""" There is NO "versus"...a born person has rights, the unborn have none. No, the solution is simple...women should have the same right YOU and everyone else has....and FORCING them to gestate takes away their rights. The unborn have no rights....they can't because any rights they MAY have are negated by the woman's rights....AND YOU WANT FETUSES TO HAVE MORE RIGHTS THAN ANYONE ELSE....HOW ODD !!!!!!! Obviously you couldn't get the analogy....and , as usual you are making up stuff....I NEVER SAID ANYONE'S LIFE WAS SAVED THROUGH SLAVERY....are you really that confused ??? Yes, you do ...you want it to be able to use another's body to sustain it's life and NO ONE ELSE HAS THAT RIGHT. That is not possible....if abortion is banned then the fetus has more rights than the woman. When an opinion is such that it threatens people's basic human rights, you are correct, I have no respect for it. No, it is very relevant ....slaves are slaves because they have lost the right to bodily autonomy EXCATLY what Anti-Choicers want to do to women. LOL, all ya got is slogans....well, no thought has to go into them.... Yes, I want women to have the right of bodily autonomy....why don't you?
I DO want women to have bodily autonomy. You keep saying I don't. Are you a bot? Or is it you just can't read? Again, I DO want women to control their bodies. Get it? I also don't want to murder unborn children and you do. YOUR OPINION is far from universal. MILLIONS of folks want to guarantee a woman's right to control her body AND guarantee an unborn child's right to live. So.... VOTE!
.slaves are slaves because they have lost the right to bodily autonomy EXCATLY what Anti-Choicers want to do to women. LOL, all ya got is slogans....well, no thought has to go into them.... Yes, I want women to have the right of bodily autonomy....why don't you? SO, you don't want to ban abortion ...GOOD!!! IMPOSSIBLE. LOL, all ya got is slogans....well, no thought has to go into them....
FoxHastings said: ↑ .slaves are slaves because they have lost the right to bodily autonomy EXCATLY what Anti-Choicers want to do to women. LOL, all ya got is slogans....well, no thought has to go into them.... Yes, I want women to have the right of bodily autonomy....why don't you? SO, you don't want to ban abortion ...GOOD!!! LOL, all ya got is slogans....well, no thought has to go into them.... What TF does voting have to do with whether or not you want fetuses to have more rights than any born human ?? LOL, all ya got is slogans....well, no thought has to go into them.... You can't even explain how a slogan solves any debate ...you can't explain how "Vote" changes the fact that women have rights and no one should take them away...
BOTH HAVE RIGHTS. You have no desire to have a rational discussion, you just want to have everything your way and screw anyone that disagrees. This conversation is a waste of time for anyone that doesn't totally agree with you. That's not a discussion at all.
FoxHastings said: ↑ .slaves are slaves because they have lost the right to bodily autonomy EXCATLY what Anti-Choicers want to do to women. LOL, all ya got is slogans....well, no thought has to go into them.... Yes, I want women to have the right of bodily autonomy....why don't you? SO, you don't want to ban abortion ...GOOD!!! LOL, all ya got is slogans....well, no thought has to go into them.... What TF does voting have to do with whether or not you want fetuses to have more rights than any born human ?? LOL, all ya got is slogans....well, no thought has to go into them.... You can't even explain how a slogan solves any debate ...you can't explain how "Vote" changes the fact that women have rights and no one should take them away... How ? What rights? IF a woman is forced to gestate she loses her right to bodily autonomy and is forced to use her body to sustain another...something no one can FORCE YOU to do, no one has that right. Why do you want a fetus to have MORE rights than anyone else??? I am not going to agree with people who are wrong....you may take that path but that's not rational It wouldn't be a waste of time IF you read and THINK about what I write instead of posting the same old , same old Anti-Choicers crap. DUH, if everyone agrees there would be no discussion at all.... IF you really wanted a discussion you would address my posts..
You want to kill babies. I don't. I want women to have their rights. I also want the unborn to have theirs. VOTE!
FoxHastings said: ↑ .slaves are slaves because they have lost the right to bodily autonomy EXCATLY what Anti-Choicers want to do to women. LOL, all ya got is slogans....well, no thought has to go into them.... Yes, I want women to have the right of bodily autonomy....why don't you? SO, you don't want to ban abortion ...GOOD!!! LOL, all ya got is slogans....well, no thought has to go into them.... What TF does voting have to do with whether or not you want fetuses to have more rights than any born human ?? LOL, all ya got is slogans....well, no thought has to go into them.... You can't even explain how a slogan solves any debate ...you can't explain how "Vote" changes the fact that women have rights and no one should take them away... How ? What rights? IF a woman is forced to gestate she loses her right to bodily autonomy and is forced to use her body to sustain another...something no one can FORCE YOU to do, no one has that right. Why do you want a fetus to have MORE rights than anyone else??? I am not going to agree with people who are wrong....you may take that path but that's not rational It wouldn't be a waste of time IF you read and THINK about what I write instead of posting the same old , same old Anti-Choicers crap. DUH, if everyone agrees there would be no discussion at all.... IF you really wanted a discussion you would address my posts.. IF you really wanted a discussion you would address my posts....but all you have is slogans....that's not "discussion"....discussion is when posters can ADD somehting... So I guess YOU really don't want a discussion.. .. you have nothing to say but say it anyway...
You want to kill babies. I don't. I want women to have their rights. I also want the unborn to have theirs. VOTE!
IF you really wanted a discussion you would address my posts....but all you have is slogans....that's not "discussion"....discussion is when posters can ADD somehting... So I guess YOU really don't want a discussion.. .. you have nothing to say but say it anyway...
I pay 21% of my paycheck to the government (state and federal) how much are poor ass republicans paying?
