Corbyn is Being Destroyed, Like Blowing Up a Bridge to Stop an Advancing Army <<MOD WARNNG>>

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  1. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and leaving the EU ain't going to stop that!
     
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    Nor will staying in.




    The way you stop that is to buy it yourself.

    Alien as the concept of having to pay for something is.

     
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    Most of it we (the british people) owned it already, then it was sold at bargain prices to overseas company's, and we are not allowed to own it again because of Tory dogma. Other countries can own our water. rail, electricity etc but not Britain! By the way I did buy some shares in Railtrack!
     
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    You owned?
    When?

    The Railways were built by some people who are not you.
    Sold to some people who are not you.
    And they still belong to people who are not you.

    You own it when you buy it. Comrade.
    Welcome to capitalism.

    If you a part own Railtrack, you get a vote in what they do with it equal to your participation. If you have not sold you share, no foreigner owns it.

    The British people don't own dick.
    The Crown = The Queen.

    What the government owns, you don't.
    You are separate legal entities.

    You have a vote in who manages the government, not a share of it.


    Seeing something you like the look of and ownership are two very different things.
     
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    This is why no one listens to Labour.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45631792
    They say they won't rule out remaining in the EU as an option on a second referendum.

    It seems Labour have lost touch with reality since they think they're in a position to do anything (they're not, they're Labour).
     
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    One of the good things about Labour is, they're all shadow, they're all nobodies.
    They're not in power.
    One of the best things about Labour is that we don't have to do anything they want.
     
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    Labour is xenophobic...
    They want to keep ownership British by making it the government's problem.

    When I look at the Houses Parliament in Westminster, I'm not looking at my water company or my rail company, thank God.

    If you think having a French owned water company is wrong because it's not British, then grow up and stop being an idiot. Move to Cuba, where the state control everything and everyone, whatever, just stop bitching about foreign ownership you Racists.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is supposed to be a video of this but I can't find it. I think this was yesterday

    https://skwawkbox.org/2018/09/24/vi...hodge-and-umunna-in-lauded-conference-speech/
     
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    Some business meetings are meant to woo investors, not to justify your output to anyone sent from the government.
    Labour disagree, and want the government to run your company.
     
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    I am sure that in past days there were people who said they weren't racist per se,
    but the Jews owned the banks, and had to be stopped.
    Or, they weren't racist but the Jews spread germs and sacrificed Christian boys.
    Or, they weren't racist but the Jews killed Christ.

    There's a grainy truth to what you have written or copied here. BUT IMAGINE THERE
    WAS NO ISRAEL. IMAGINE PALESTINE WAS FOUGHT OVER BY TURKEY, EGYPT,
    SYRIA, LEBANON AND JORDAN, AS IT WAS BEFORE. THEN THE LEFT WOULD
    NOT NOTICE - AS THE LEFT DOESN'T NOTICE MOST CONFLICTS (like Chechnya,
    Yemen, Bosnia, Eritrea, Congo, Nigeria, Sri Lanka, Sudan, India-Pakistan, Ukraine,
    Mozambique etc etc etc etc..)

    It is the SELECTIVITY OF ISSUES WHICH IDENTIFIES THE LEFT'S FALSE CLAIM
    TO SOCIAL JUSTICE.

    The tragedy for Palestine is their belief they don't have to do a deal with the Jews
    because they have international friends urging them to do otherwise. They did this
    when the Jews were just a few settlements, they did this when the Jews were given
    the UN mandate for a strip of land, they did this when the Jews had the 67 borders
    and they will continue to do this until there's no Palestine left.
     
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    At the turn of last century Australia wanted railways, and tons of them.
    Seems the average Australian didn't see the TRUCK and MOTOR CAR
    coming down that dusty track.
    And Australia got loans from Britain. We don't use the railways anymore.
    I am not sure if it's true but someone said we are still paying back to British
    corporations the loans for the rail expansion, plus the interest.

    An Australian Socialist government should stop paying back loans to Britain.
     
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    But then how will Australia get anymore loans from Britain if Australia doesn't pay back its loans from Britain, and why would you ever say I in London have lost my money I spent on your railways?
     
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    Australia ranks 3rd globally for freight tonnage being shipped by rail. Australia's railways are being used
     
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    If only you knew something about what your talking about it would be interesting. Public ownership and the Crown are synonymous in the commonwealth.
     
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    This is Mother Britain, this is not the commonwealth, we are the creators here, it's English they speak, don't think UK isn't some sort of homeland to it all because it is.
    They can do whatever they want in the commonwealth, we in Britain have LTDs and PLCs that are privately owned, so who wants a crown/public ownership deal in London?
    Magna Carta Baby!
     
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    Incorrect.
    Public and state ownership are ideologically the same in republics, but even there the individual and the state are separate legal entities.

    As an experiment, try and sell something owned by the state.
    You will find that you cannot. Because it is not yours.
    Nor can you sell any share of it you believe you own, because you do not.
    Nor can you rent it out, nor deny others the use of it.

    You have no control over any of it at all.
    Because it is not yours and it was never yours.

    If they sell some of it, as with Railtrack, you may get the opportunity to buy.
    Railtrack is a privately owned and publicly traded company.

    Public ownership and state ownership are not the same thing. Comrade.
    I'm not aware of any communist countries in the Commonwealth.
     
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    Actually in London you have a lot of Labour in power!
     
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    Crown property
    In the modern representative democracy, "public property" is said to be owned by the people as a commons or held in trust by the government for common benefit. In many Commonwealth realms, such property is said to be owned by the Crown. Examples include Crown land, Crown copyright, and Crown Dependencies.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_property
     
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    We have a Mayor who's good at keeping London not turning into a police state.
     
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    Britain is not part of the commonwealth, too funny!
     
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    buy shares in a company and become an investor if you want a return on your investment, buy shares, if they make a return, pay dividends tax.
    Don't say the public can't own anything here because you're wrong, we can all buy shares.
    When a person buys shares, that person owns the shares...
    If the people want to own something, buy it.
     
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    And councillors and MEp's and MP's in fact London is one of the Labour heartlands after the last election when Londoners voted for Corbyn in their millions!
     
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    Still, You have a shadow leader and a shadow government.
    My own Labour MP's a fool who's been dumped on us.
    Steve Reed MP is no Chuka Umunna MP who's a decent Labour MP down the road in Streatham along the A23; no, Croydon North has a bad Labour puppet, but you're right, there are some in Labour whom are good, Chuka Umunna for one.
     
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    Absolutely. Inner London always was. Same when I was living there.
     
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