Corona Virus Update

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  1. FreshAir

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    It is hard to wrap my head around the notion that the guy who, literally today, disputed the findings from his own administration about the failures to adequately supply hospitals, lied about passengers being given tests when they board and leave planes, said that the faulty CDC tests initially used were "old" and "obsolete," (which makes zero ****ing sense considering that this virus is brand new) and lied about the Obama administration response to the H1N1 pandemic as "doing a great job."
     
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    Those badly hit cities will just come to your town if you open it up now.
     
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    Trump has been President for 3 years, the Obama admin warned Trump of a possible coming pandemic, Trump choose to ignore that warning.. sad!

    time to realize Trump is a failure, all the excuses he comes up with for his failures are pathetic, the reality is, Trump is not a leader, he is a wanna be dictator that just wants to be praised 24\7 and not actually do anything
     
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    The last 9 days have all seen a positive testing result (nationally) of at least 18.7%. Given that we still are not testing enough, that tells me there are a lot more cases out there.

    And given that deaths happen an average of 18-20 days after infection, we are going to see this thing play out for a long time yet.
     
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    Apparently the testing supplies are arriving in surges. So we might expect to see that reflected in the data. We definitely don't want to back down for some time to come.

    If immunologists had their way, we would have a hard shut down globally for two more months. Eeeeesh.
     
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    especially considering many states have not hit their peak yet
     
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    And a lot of that depends on how well the people there isolate themselves.
     
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    hopefully those states are learning from those that went before them

    I live in a state without a mandatory shutdown, but the people and businesses here have shutdown ourselves
     
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    Trumper ?
    This is not the “Spanish Flu” and it appears to be reversing
     
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    we are reducing the curve, lets hope that keeps up

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    We are slowing it down because we are taking definitive and drastic actions. Trump's own people stated that if we didn't do this, we could expect as many as 2.2 million deaths, which are far more than died in the US during the Spanish Flu epidemic. We lost around a half a million then. So this could have been over 4 times worse if left unchecked.

    And this is a long way from over. The inflection point means we are half way through this and its too soon to know if this really is the inflection point. The threat of reinfecting the population and having it take off again is ever present and will be until there is a vaccine or most people have had it.
     
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    Complete and utter bovine excrement!

    Neither Hillary nor Biden would have DISBANDED the Pandemic team.

    They WOULD have reacted quickly and decisively to CONTAIN the spread of the virus.

    YOUR criminal IMPOTUS failed on BOTH COUNTS!
     
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    Governor Cuomo has acted decisively and quickly to curb the virus and his ACTIONS are SAVING LIVES!

    However what he has done is NOT being replicated in other states. FL is allowing churches to hold Easter services and the GA has just opened up all of their beaches!

    The revision is based upon the FALLACY that ALL of the states will implement STRICT LOCK DOWN policies.

    It is NOT happening and so those revisions are POLITICALLY EXPEDIENT rather than REALITY.

    We are already at 11k deaths under a strict lockdown policy in NY. Now multiply that out across the other states that do NOT have the same policy.

    And deaths are a LAGGING indicator. They will continue in NY long after the peak has passed because only a third of those on ventilators survive.
     
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    Italy is starting to see the benefits of a STRICT LOCKDOWN policy.

    The model DEPENDS upon a NATIONWIDE lockdown policy.

    We have the moronic governors in FL and GA making things WORSE, not better.
     
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    Trump U "doctorate" in sycophancy.
     
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    I took a look at the data attached to the latest IMHE release and tried to figure out what they are using as a basis for their estimates.

    http://www.healthdata.org/covid/updates

    As close as I can tell for the EU nations they have more or less just added existing death tolls and current critical cases and used that for their estimate of total deaths. That only works if they assume that all EU nations are going to be able to maintain strict lockdowns for an extended period of time. In the real world Spring is here and Summer is just around the corner and people are not going to want to remain inside.

    If the same assumptions are being used for the States then they are IGNORING the untested masses and therein lurks the real threat.

    It would be nice if they were right but only SK and Germany seem to be able to maintain any degree of discipline among their populations.
     
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    I was just listening to an emergency responder talking about his work.

    He said that deaths in the field are not being counted. They are only testing patients who make it to the hospital alive. He said they have a lot of people who never make it that far and their deaths are not being included in the official count.
     
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    That's completely untrue and an EMT or paramedic has no idea how deaths are reported. What a crock.

    They are only testing patients....... so you're saying that if someone dies in the field from a car accident, you want them tested for covid and that should be the cause of death?
     
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    Another ridiculous post. He said they are not being tested. Duh!!!

    Also, in spite of your bogus claims, we don't know if we acquire immunity to this or not. That was confirmed again last night by Gupta, who talks to Fauci almost daily.
     
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    So if an EMT shows up to a drowning victim, you want them tested for covid? How about car accident victims? Heart attacks?
     
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    It seems the only thing you want to hear is doom and gloom, we're all going to die, and you will accept nothing less. Even when facts are presented to you, you hold your ground. I'm sure you'll keep that up till Nov. 3rd. Debating with you is pointless.
     
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    I think you know that there are obviously cases where the cause of death is not covid, but covid is known to cause fainting (which could result in someone drowning or car accidents) and heart damage (which could result in heart attacks).

    So yes, deceased individuals should be getting tested for covid.
     
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