Corona Virus Update

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  1. Heartburn

    Heartburn Well-Known Member

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    People who don't wear masks are only spreading the virus if they are carriers. Most of us breathe with little risk of getting sick.
     
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    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Pumping trillions of borrowed money being pumped into the billionaires and Wall Street moguls is not going to much to improve the economy or to the general population of America.

    The sole useful subsidy was the money put in some of the actual working or poor of America, an amount that was barely a trickle compared to the top 1%. And that top 1% fought hard to avoid giving that first $1200, and appears to ensure that a second $1200 has been fought to the death by our Republicans so more freebie trillions can flow unimpeded to the 1%.

    We could easily have afforded to keep the people of America surviving until going we had a vaccine for everyone, but the excuses of pumping the huge amount of cash into billionaires makes sure our government well goes dry very fast indeed.
     
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  3. LangleyMan

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    I hope you're not missing the importance of getting the number of new cases down. If we don't, people will continue pulling in their horns. Why can't we do what they've done in British Columbia?

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  4. Pycckia

    Pycckia Well-Known Member

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    Absent a vaccine the only way to keep new cases down is enforcing stay at home orders. I suppose that dispersing the cities into the countryside would work too.

    Pol Pot did that, but for other reasons.
     
  5. ronv

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    You can also keep the cases down with good testing and effective contact tracing. Think S. Korea.
     
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    Pycckia Well-Known Member

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    Nope.

    South Korea relaxed restrictions on May 1, and now are reimposing restrictions due to a new outbreak.

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    After being lauded for its success in containing the coronavirus, a spike in cases in Seoul has prompted South Korean officials to tighten social distancing measures so as to curb a second wave of the pandemic.

    The 79 new cases of COVID-19 reported Thursday was the highest number seen in nearly eight weeks. It comes just weeks after the country eased stringent social distancing policies, which coupled with extensive tracking and tracing, has kept the total number of infections to 11,344 in the country of 51 million.

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    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...us-cases-prompts-alarm-new-crackdown-n1216266
     
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    Because we have a constitution?
     
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    ronv Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, it's like whack a mole. If you have good testing and contact tracing you beat on a spike and wait for the next one.
    But Korea did keep it to only 222 cases per million compared to our 5400.
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    Outbreaks will happen. We're all buying time in the hope of coming up with effective treatments, a cure, or a vaccine.
     
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    They have a constitution, too, and never issued a stay-at-home order. All they did it close businesses likely to spread the virus. Restaurants are reopening. Barbers, hair styling, dentists for more than emergencies, massage and physical therapy, virtually all stores, but not bars, nightclubs, concerts, and sporting events.
     
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    The point is they reintroduced a lock down only weeks after opening us.
     
  12. LangleyMan

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    BC did it without a stay-at-home order. They took some of the homeless off the street and put them up in vacant hotels. They're giving prescription opiates to addicts. The finance minister of Canada said he has one job--keeping food on Canadian tables.
    You're comparing British Columbia to Cambodia under Pol Pot? :roflol:

    They did it right, we didn't. I think this guy...

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    ... is why we got it wrong.
     
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    They never had a lockdown in the same way we did.

    Unlike Italy, China, the UK and parts of the US, there was no lockdown in South Korea. It did, however, close its schools. There have been postponed attempts at reopening them, but reopen they must, according to Foreign Minister Kang.

    https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/03/south-korea-covid-19-containment-testing/
     
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    Add up the population of Canada's top 5 cities and compare that to the US and you might see some of the reason for the different levels of infection. Mo people mo sick people.
     
  15. Richard Franks

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    Coronavirus Live Updates: Trump Says U.S. Will Cut Ties With W.H.O.
    New York City could start reopening on June 8, and Washington, D.C., and Los Angeles were to further ease restrictions. The president plans to resume in-person fund-raising soon.

    Right Now

    The White House said Trump administration officials would only testify before Congress if committee leaders agree to conduct hearings in person — a challenge to new House rules created during the pandemic.
     
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    According to my research the Koreans had rather strict rules that were voluntarily observed. They didn't send cops to arrest beach goers or barbers but they didn't have to having a much more socially cohesive and obedient population.
     
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    The percentage of the urban population is about the same in both countries--something you might expect because farming is done the same way in both countries.

    They got it right, we didn't.
     
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    Yep.
    This is the best summary I could find.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-52482553
     
  19. Richard Franks

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    Sparsely populated Lowndes County, deep in Alabama's old plantation country, has the sad distinction of having both the state’s highest rate of COVID-19 cases and its worst unemployment rate.

    Initially spared as the disease ravaged cities, the county and other rural areas in the state are now facing a “perfect storm:” a lack of access to medical care combined with poverty and the attendant health problems, including hypertension, heart disease, lung disease, kidney disease and diabetes, that can worsen the outcomes for those who become sick with the coronavirus, said Dr. Ellen Eaton.

    “I think a lot of people fell into this idea that we were immune because we’re not in tight spaces like in New York and New Jersey, and we’re in wide-open areas,” said Eaton, who specializes in infectious diseases at the University of Alabama at Birmingham.

    But no longer. Lowndes and nearby poor, mostly black counties in rural Alabama are facing an increase in confirmed infections. Their outbreaks are also affecting urban areas, since many of the sick need to be transferred to city hospitals.
     
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    Not many farms in NY City where America was hit hardest.
     
  21. ronv

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    Ahh, nothing like a good riot to spread things around.
    California: Los Angeles, Bakersfield, Sacramento, San Jose, Oakland, San Francisco

    Colorado: Denver

    Georgia: Atlanta

    Illinois: Chicago

    Iowa: Des Moines

    Indiana: Indianapolis, Fort Wayne

    Kentucky: Louisville (Related to the death of Breonna Taylor)

    Louisiana: New Orleans

    New York: New York City

    Massachusetts: Boston

    Michigan: Detroit

    Minnesota: Minneapolis

    Nevada: Las Vegas

    North Carolina: Charlotte

    Ohio: Columbus, Cincinnati

    Texas: Dallas, Houston

    Virginia: Richmond

    Washington, DC
     
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    The FDA-approved drug ivermectin inhibits the replication of SARS-CoV-2 in vitro

    Highlights



    Ivermectin is an inhibitor of the COVID-19 causative virus (SARS-CoV-2) in vitro.


    A single treatment able to effect ~5000-fold reduction in virus at 48 h in cell culture.


    Ivermectin is FDA-approved for parasitic infections, and therefore has a potential for repurposing.


    Ivermectin is widely available, due to its inclusion on the WHO model list of essential medicines.



    Abstract
    Although several clinical trials are now underway to test possible therapies, the worldwide response to the COVID-19 outbreak has been largely limited to monitoring/containment. We report here that Ivermectin, an FDA-approved anti-parasitic previously shown to have broad-spectrum anti-viral activity in vitro, is an inhibitor of the causative virus (SARS-CoV-2), with a single addition to Vero-hSLAM cells 2 h post infection with SARS-CoV-2 able to effect ~5000-fold reduction in viral RNA at 48 h. Ivermectin therefore warrants further investigation for possible benefits in humans.

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220302011

     
  23. LangleyMan

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    Not many farms in Vancouver which is extremely dense in its downtown core...

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    Here is the case load for Vancouver...

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    They got it right, we didn't. They "bent the curve" and flattened it. And they did it without a stay-at-home order.
     
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    God save the Queen
     
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    What the hell is going on?

    Back in April, Trump/DHS stated that Cocid19 could be drastically slowed when the temperature reaches 95 degrees.

    Well, for anyone’s info, there’s
    currently an excessive heat warning in Arizona.....Maricopa County/104 degrees, and 410 new cases, State-wide, 790 new cases, thus, WTF?
     
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