Could Nasa's James Webb Space Telescope detect alien life?

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  1. Mamasaid

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    Fascinating, but you might want to pause to consider that your willful ignorance prevents you from seeing how new knowledge has ended up affecting your life directly in the past and will again in the future.
     
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    I can understand that when someone is in desperate circumstance and must focus full time on the basics of survival.
     
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    You must be young. Give it time
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Where this particular 'science' is concerned, I can't think how it has affected my life in the past, nor how it will affect it in the future. And in view of my 'willful ignorance' accusation, I trust that, like myself, you too have received a warning under Rule 2.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you're saying that one day we might all have to decamp to another planet, it won't be to Mars that we decamp will it.
     
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    I wish! :roflol: Actually I don't.
     
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    Actually it most likely will. Mars is BY FAR the most habitable extrasolar planet we know of, is the closest and already planned for habitation. Personally I believe a space station is a better idea but, who says we wont do both.
     
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    :rolleyes: "Mars’ Soil Too Dry to Sustain Life?" In other words there isn't enough wodder there. And the atmosphere is too thin anyway. But apart from that, it is habitable.

    https://www.nasa.gov/feature/ames/is-mars-soil-too-dry-to-sustain-life


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    Picture of two earthlings looking for wodder and not finding any.
     
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    :roflol:

    You cannot tell when the BLOTUS is spouting his endless lies but you constantly accuse NASA of lying just because you believe the disingenuous claptrap of British TABLOIDS? :eek:

    :roflol:
     
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    I wouldn't call it lying, just being shamelessly economical with the actualité.
     
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    One point that I agree with Cerberus is that no planet will ever be colonized. Labs on other planets probably but that will be it.
     
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    :shock: Am I still asleep? o_O
     
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    Once we dispel the idea that colonization means walking around in an outdoor park to fish in the lake we can get real and begin to understand any habitation will be dependent on technological infrastructure. Likely primarily underground in Lava tubes or within other artificial habitats.
     
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    While it is unlikely to happen within my own remaining lifespan I am not going to be dogmatic and stipulate that it will never happen either.

    We learned how to fly, we landed on the moon and we have sent probes across our own solar system. With a breakthrough in heavy lift capacity and/or the means to achieve higher interstellar speeds the possibilities exist for colonization.
     
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    Ah but did we? We only have NASA's word for it??
     
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    If it was faked by NASA then why didn't they do it in COLOR instead of black and white?
     
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    Yes....WE DID and have Far,far more than words that prove it. That YOU cannot for some strange reason accept the reams of verified and accepted data the rest of the world does is your own problem and irrelevant outside your "Mind"..

     
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    Perhaps you can explain how a set of "mirrors" were placed on to the moon. Proof of their existence - every major observatory have bounced laser signals off these mirrors to measure the distance to the moon : Just for your entertainment here is a simplified reenactment on Big Bang Theory:


    And a more accurate description is here:
     
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    I'm guessing the physiological structures of humans, and most plants and animals, as well as the environment all of these have evolved, pretty much dictates that wherever humans might migrate away from Earth, that location must be almost identical to Earth. And if not, colonization can still be accomplished but with foreign and artificial environments. Underground habitats can work but I don't see them working without having above the ground protected environments as well...
     
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    Yes, we know. A more curious person might then seek out this information with the self awareness that others may have thought of that something he did not. A more intellectually honest person might also admit that he may not have thought of everything.
     
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    I doubt the mods would consider it a rule violation, when you freely and proudly state it and admit it.
     
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    Well, if you read this thread you will find that I'm not that interested in men in space.

    For science exploration, our abilities with robotic investigation along with the stupendous expense of keeping humans alive in space form a strong argument against humans flying around the solar system for the purpose of investigation.

    As a off-earth colony where humans can escape a dying earth we would need a population of a few thousand individuals to ensure survival of the species even if we answered ALL other questions. And, right now we don't have a way of keeping ONE such escapee alive. Mars receives lethal radiation, is stupendously cold, has almost zero atmosphere, etc., etc.

    I just see the idea of a self sufficient colony on some other planetoid as cool sci fi. Only.
     
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    I don't think so - even a human being born and bred in an artificial environment would literally go insane because it would be existing against every instinct of nature. And for anyone transported ('teleported'? :mrgreen: ) to Mars for the rest of their lives, they'd go mad within weeks of subterranean living. And anyhoo, how would constructing an underground world for millions of inhabitants work? Answer? It can't be done, and there's no plan B.
     
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    Robots? [​IMG] The prototypes of the Mars lander, maybe?? I'd like to know how anyone who (supposedly) went to the moon got back home: did they take a spare gantry and use the outgoing vehicle for the return journey? Or more easily believed, a second rocket complete with module to all climb into, thence to blast off from the surface of the moon and head for home?
     
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    Well I'm obviously more curious than you are in other spheres, although none come readily to mind. It's my sharp curiosity which makes me (as I've often been told) an interesting individual.
     

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