Could ninety percent of gloom and doom prophecies be an alegory?

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  1. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    You don't think the Jews are still acting like the Hebrew patriarchs anymore though,... right?
    They once said the same things about attacking sexually promiscuous societies, just as the muslims do now.

    I see Jews acting very much as Christians do.
    They pay attention to different holidays, and ignore Jesus.
    But they are not an eye for an eye people any longer.
    They are charitable.

    They act very much as do the Christians.
     
  2. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    The iron age readers were not the people who wrote what the Bible says though.

    They were too ignorant back then to understand the facts of creation.
    What was written could not be any more clearly written, nor in any greater detail, than what Genesis says.

    Your initial premise that the Bible is dead wrong is what you defend here regardless of how much it can be seen as correct now.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    The prophecies say this is about to happen...

    Plague #6: Amplified Theistic Evolution Bible (http://kofh2u.tripod.com/id204.html)

    Rev. 16:12 And the sixth angel, (an insight within John's mind), poured out his vial (of intuitions) upon the great river (of Islamic peoples), Euphrates; and the waters (of that people's Muslim theology) thereof was dried up (and ready for the fire of Jesus' baptism: [Matt 3:12]), that the way (for the salvation) of the (Islamic) kings of the (middle) east might be prepared.

    Rev. 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits, like frogs, (frogs: the Egyptian symbol for resurrection because these same ideologies are to be found in the next generations), come out of the mouth of the (red) dragon:[Rev 12:3] (which is the secular, cultural Libidinal lust, called Satan, and the intuitive pagan sexual manipulation of society called the Feminist Devil: [Rev 20:1-2. Rev 17:3]), and out of the mouth of the beast (which is the competitive economic misappropriation of labor, the Mode of Production: [Dan 3:1,6,7]), and out of the mouth of the false prophet (which is Mohammed of Islam, [Dan 7:8; Rev 6:1-8).

    Rev. 16:14 For they (3) are the (collective psychic-sociological) spirits of (dominance manifesting in the Global Village), devils, (of cultural psycho-sociological fixations), working (modern) miracles, which go forth (in a secular, academic , and theological opposition to Scripture) unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle (in order to oppose Scripture and the Christ), of that great day (of Truth: [Rev 5:5]) of God (of the living), Almighty, (who is the Reality of man's existence).

    Rev. 16:15 Behold, I, (who open the sealed book: [Rev 5:5]), come as a thief, (stealing away the membership of your congregations). Blessed is he that watcheth (for the Truth that is to come: [Matthew 25:1-4]), and keepeth (informed in the scriptures which are) his garments (of understanding: [Rev 3:17]), lest he walk naked (in his own interpretive conceit: [Rev 3:18]), and they see his shame, (defenselessness: [Rev 10:7], for the son of God is Truth: [Rev 3:12], as is clearly revealed from the Word, itself: [John 1:1]).

    Rev. 16:16 And he, (who opens the sealed book: [Rev 5:5]), gathered them, (the Muslim Army of the Ottoman Empire), together (with the British and their friendly allied Arab military forces), into a (triangularly shaped) place (in 1917, during WWI), called in the Hebrew tongue (the triangular valley of) Armageddon, (and that Empire fell).
     
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    No those prophecies were predicted to happen during their lifetime of when these verses were written.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Some people might say so.
    When did Armageddon happen then? [Rev 16:16].
     
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    we live in reality though, not a book
     
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    Jebus cults
    VERY destructive, they are.
    Self-righteous, sanctimonious hypocrites, the lot of them.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well................. I have to admit that until I began to read NDE accounts my own understanding of the Jewish and Christian Bible was astonishingly simplistic.

    I read much of the book of John over these past few days....(the internet wasn't working and we had to buy a new router).... and I saw much of this book in a whole new light due to what near death experiencers had reported viewing!

    You are correct..... I am extremely thankful to the people who have tried their best to describe what they saw. I do feel like I am on at least a higher level than I was back in 1985.... when I felt that Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong might well be the final Elijah..... as well as perhaps one of the two witnesses.......
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But you know what...… Richard Dawkins Ph. D. is also capable of being self-righteous.... even though of course it manifests in a different way.

    He is NOT an Atheist....... he is an Agnostic..... but it is difficult for him to admit to this fairly obvious fact!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...richard-dawkins-ph-d-aliens-seeded-earth.html
     
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    On the other hand..........
    a high percentage of Jews laughed during the '30's when they were warned about where Nazism was probably leading?!?!
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When we begin to see where we were off track.......
    our admission of guilt can be more valuable in some ways.....
    so that others can learn from our mistakes......

    http://www.politicalforum.com/gay-l...rs-understand-nde-comments-gay-community.html

    Sincere apologies for taking 5 years to understand NDE comments on Gay Community!
    I personally am ashamed of myself for being a Christian who could not understand this message for about five years!!!!!

    http://www.near-death.com/andreason.html#a09

    9. What about sexually diverse people?

     
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    There were Jews in Hitler's government.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you remember the friend of King David named Hushai....
    (if I remember correctly)... who volunteered to go into the court of Absolom.....
    and refute the wise counsel of Ahitohophel?

    Well......
    an ethical person... in some versions of Multiverse.....
    could perhaps even take over the seat of the Anti-Christ guy??????

    G-d willing?????!
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What if there was evidence of the previous existence of time lines in which
    Hillary Clinton was elected President in 2016?

    What if those time lines had certain problems that may turn out in a much more
    positive way this time around?

    This possibility can help us to understand the popular saying...."It's all good!"
    at an even higher level.....
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Exactly.......
    and prophecy would have to take into consideration........

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/howard-storm.html#a06

     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is logic in G-d creating multiple time lines......
    each of which is real.......
    so many seeming prophecies given to gifted people.....
    could already have occurred in another time line.... and G-d is actually hoping that we may make much
    better decisions and avoid even those disasters.....
    that we could so easily repeat.
     

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