Court Certified Document Expert From Hawaii Confirms Obama's Birth Document Is Forged

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  1. Leffe

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    No no no, a link to a nut sac on youtube is sufficient! Call the Feds now! We have clear evidence that Obama is an illegal immigrant!
     
  2. MCCP

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    Mr. Hayes report has been submitted to the Cold Case Posse and will not be revealed to the public since it is a ongoing investigation according to Mike Zullo in a interview last week. You don't reveal your best evidence in public so the opposition wont twist the details of his independent report. That is basic common sense. I know they would love to get their hands on the report. Mr. Hayes has politely turned down their email offers to release his findings.
     
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    Maybe no one on the cold case posse can READ.

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1401
     
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    Sure. Here is the NBC interview link. A reminder that this interview took place several weeks before Obama released the long form birth certificate on April 27, 2011.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/42519951/...-official-denounces-ludicrous-birther-claims/


    excerpt from the interview


    [Fukino said, she wanted to inspect the files — and did so, taking with her the state official in charge of vital records. She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files.]

    What Obama released was not 'half typed and half handwritten'.


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    We are not focused on Citizenship laws. We are focused on Obama allowing the release of a forged government document to the American public, which is a felony. A forged birth document means that is not a true document confirming true identity. People get caught having forged birth certificates all the time, especially illegal aliens or criminals wanting to conceal their past or start a new life.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Dr. Conspiracy (Kevin Davidson) is well noted as being pro-Obama and not a expert in forensic Computer-Generated Handwriting and Documents attestations compared to Mr. Hayes impressive qualifications. I think Dr. Conspiracy is trying at best to undermine Reed Hayes qualifications for political purposes only. Obfuscation is Dr. Conspiracy's main motive in his article.
     
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    In the early 1960s new mothers stayed in hospital 4-5 days and BC were "batched".. so its not unusual at all to see an original BC that is half written and have typed.

    I am much older and my original is like that as well.

    You wouldn't be off on this goose chase if you could read the law and the definition of "jurisdiction".
     
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    Oh good God ANOTHER Birther thread, would you people go seek some professional help for your delusions, people are not laughing with you any more, heck they aren't even laughing at you any more, they have now moved on to the pity for you stage. Keep chasing your tails, but as with any dog that does it, at some point people stop thinking it is cute and start wondering what the heck is wrong with the dog.
     
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    Mike Zullo under the direction of Sheriff Joe Arpaio know what they are doing. Congressman Steve Stockman is to receive their 300 page evidence report in a upcoming meeting in D.C..
     
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    It is no delusion that Obama released a forged document. It has been confirmed by a 21 month investigation backed by Hawaii independent court certified forensic document and computer-generated handwritting expert Reed Hayes's own 40 page evidence report.
     
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    LOLOLOL..
     
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    Yet his report is not available, and we do not know anything about the source document...

    You keep on copy/pasting text and not offering any evidence...
     
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    Yes it is a delusion, and that is how delusions work, those that are under them believe them without question. Keep chasing that tail just so long as you know you have no tail.
     
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    Investigations aren't delusions, they are fact. This investigation is of no exception.
     
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    Your expert is a con.. and you have been duped..


    Read the citizenship statute.. The accusation is completely without merit.. There was NO Kenya in 1961 and there was NO international airport. And, it was four or five days flying time between Kenya and Hawaii until the mid 1970s.

    I cannot imagine such ignorance in 2013.
     
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    I did not say the ingestigation is a delusion, anyone can make an investigation, now proving the claims based on the samer arguements that have been shot down time and timer again and claiming they are now true is Delusional. As I said please do believe in them, I hope the morons do present it to Congress and to the Nation, it will only serve to make more Americans understand that Birthers are nothing but a bunch of desperate idiots that obviously have far too much time on their hands and far too facts.
     
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    it is still 24 hours from the midwest.
     
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    Appuzo is back?
     
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    I cannot find the actual 40-page report and, if what I read is true, the "Cold Case Posse" is holding it back (for some reason)?

    This link is to a story that fleshes things out a bit more and adds perspective: http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/06/b...attorney-says-birth-certificate-is-100-fraud/

    Interesting. There may be some truth to the allegation that Obama claimed to have citizenship in a foreign country -- or maybe not (until we actually have proof, we don't know). But, usually when a "birther" thread hits the Forum, Obama's loyal, obedient "Praetorian Guard" show up in force to pour every curse and castigation imaginable on anybody who expresses doubt about Comrade Obama. In this thread, so far, only one of them has shown up with the usual fare. Hmmm. Are they avoiding this thread for some reason...? Just say'n'....
     
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    I am new to the forum. I don't know who this "Praetorian Guard" is. But it is not surprising that there would be people who would jump on Reed Hayes and his findings. Thanks for the link.
     
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    Welcome to the unending trench warfare known as politicalforum! As an hard-core economic Conservative, I find myself in frequent opposition to everything that a ward-heeling socialist like Barack Obama's regime stands for, and for the almost five years I've posted here, that has helped me identify who the opposition is in this forum. The "recovery", such as it is, has been created by the Federal Reserve System, headed by its Keynesian Chairman, Ben Bernanke -- who is the "brains" behind butthole (and I suppose you can guess who "butthole" is....). As you have already seen, Liberals and Conservatives of different varieties skirmish continually about everything from foreign policy to the economy to ad infinitum. Nothing unusual about that....

    BUT!
    There is one nerve-ending that some of the hyperliberal Obama-supporters are absolutely rabid about, and that is any expression that casts doubt on the truth of any part of the official "Obama story" -- his past, and what he represents to be the facts of that past. Thus, threads about Obama's birthplace, his claimed citizenship, his Social Security number (which is tied to the State of Connecticut?), his Selective Service registration, his school records, etc., etc. bring these Obama-zealots out quickly and in force. I have given them the name of "Obama's Praetorian Guard", after the old Legion of the Roman Praetorian Guard, whose single purpose in life was to defend the Emperor from anyone and anything, to the last man! There's hundreds of excellent sites about this armed force you can find on the Internet. You might also want to look up the SS Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler, which was Hitler's elite bodyguard back in Nazi Germany. Lots and lots of similarities....

    Obama's "Praetorian Guard" forms a solid phalanx of protection for their Führer in this forum, and instead of swords and spears, they use every kind of curse and condemnation in the English language to disparage anyone and everyone who doubts the official "Obama story". This thread seeks to examine whether or not Barack Obama deliberately and willfully lied (or maybe, told the truth about) what country he is/was actually a citizen of when filling out legal documents when he was at university. So, it follows that, based on all past observed behavior, all those forum posters who loyally, and most emphatically defend every single thing about Obama and his "story", would storm in here like they do other similar threads in the past, verbal swords drawn, ready to fight to the death for their president. Strangely, though, only one of them has shown up, so far.... Hmmm.

    My only interest, at this point, is in knowing whether or not Obama did, indeed, LIE, or not. And, that's why I want to see what's in this 40-page document, and find out more about this informant Orly Taitz described.

    Well, then, welcome aboard! Better cover your ass if you're going to express any doubts about Comrade Obama here, MCCP, because the Praetorian Guard has flame-throwers that are better than anything you've ever seen before... cheers!
     
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    Thank you for informing me. I welcome their attacks and will be ready.
     
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    LOL! Birthers.

    Double LOL! for the Cold Case Posse.

    Someday you people are going to need to get lives. But then again, you probably think the Nigerian scam emails are genuine.
     
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    "The Cold Case Posse" is not a law enforcement posse- it is a group of volunteers with no legal authority.

    If the Cold Case Posse has any evidence of a crime, and they are withholding it from prosecuters, then they are breaking the law.

    But seriously- no one actually believes that Mike Zullo- the man who signed a book deal with a Birther before starting his 'investigation' will actually ever do anything more than have press conferences, do they?
     
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    Well lets address that.

    First of all- lets go to Fukino's official statement:

    10/31/08
    “Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

    7/27/09
    “I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai‛i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obamawas born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen

    So from Dr. Fukino's official statement we know that:
    a) She has seen the official birth certificate that is on file and
    b) That Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

    This was of course subsequently confirmed by Hawaii on 4/27/11

    HONOLULU – The Hawai„i State Health Department recently complied with a request by President Barack Obama for certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth, which is sometimes referred to in the media as a “long form” birth certificate.

    “We hope that issuing certified copies of the original Certificate of Live Birth to President Obama will end the numerous inquiries related to his birth in Hawai„i,” Hawai„i Health Director Loretta Fuddy said. “I have seen the original records filed at the Department of Health and attest to the authenticity of the certified copies the department provided to the President that further prove the fact that he was born in Hawai„i.”

    http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/News_Release_Birth_Certificate_042711.pdf

    And of course Hawaii confirmed that the White House had released that Birth Certificate:

    On April 27, 2011 President Barack Obama posted a certified copy of his original Certificate of Live Birth.

    http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html

    So Hawaii has consistantly stated that Barack Obama was born there, and that his original birth certificate is on file.

    Since the State of Hawaii sent Obama the certified copy he showed reporters, a copy of which he posted online- how could that be a forgery?
     
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    Since the State of Hawaii has confirmed that they sent the certified copy of the birth certificate to Obama, and confirmed that what Obama posted was his birth certificate- what felony is that?

    The certified copy that Obama showed reporters has been verified by the State of Hawaii as accurate.


    How many 'forged documents' are confirmed by the state that issues the documents- like Hawaii did?

    This is the essential nuttiness of the Birther claims- the State of Hawaii since 2008, starting with a Republican Administration going to a Democratic Administration has consistantly confirmed that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

    What is forged then?

    What does 'computer-generated handwriting' have to do with anything?

    Mike Zullo approached multiple 'experts' asking for someone- anyone to confirm what he said was the truth.

    This guy is the only one Zullo could find who would agree with what Zullo wanted him to say.
     

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