Court shoots down London residents’ missile claim

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  1. Jack Napier

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    Let me see.

    Why would these fleeing Jews, who were stopped by FBI, and who were clearly suspected enough to be held, why would they possibly say they were not Al Queda?

    Let me ponder...maybe they would have gotten shot, there and then?

    Just throwing that in.

    And please, do not water down what your Jewish master said.

    He said that what happned was good for Jews in the occupied lands.

    In English.
     
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    Why would they say they were Al Qaeda if they were Mossad? And what i was mentioning was, why would these agents report that palestinian bomb makers where driving in a white van? To blame palestinians? Why didn't they report pakistanis or simply arabs? Why would they even bother actually? Tipping off is what actually got them caught, are mossad agents this ill trained?
     
  3. Jack Napier

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    Simple.

    They DID NOT say they were Al Qaeda. They did not say there Mossad.

    What is hard about this?

    As for Mossad agents, and Israeli spies, listen, I am afraid that while all of your key constructs are under control of Zionist Jews, that not every single American of influence, is rolling over.

    There are still some, true Americans, who are well aware of what I am aware of, and others, and they do not like it.

    But it is hard, for them.

    If they go into politics, and try to fight it there, because of the system...they will lose their jobs.

    Evidence?

    Find me ONE politician in the current political mainstream that is critical of Israel?

    Where are they all? We even have them here, in Britian, MP's, and some Jewish, who do, so where are they in the US?

    It is not like you need to look HARD to find valid reasons, so where are they? (Google Helen Thomas, you see..)

    I will save you the bother.

    They are not there, the system does not allow it, why would a system run for Zionist Jews, allow a Presidential candidate that was anything but meek...to Zionist Jews? Now, that really wouldn't make sense.

    All I know, is that they did exist, they were Jewish, they were Israeli, they were in the vicinity, they were recording it, they did state they were THERE TO RECORD IT, the FBI pulled them over, and they tried to pass themselves off as Palestinian.

    They were held for some time, suspected of spying or whatever, and then released, and no more said.

    There are still Americans that have not sold out, who are working away in the background, to try to expose these usurpers of the US, the best they can.

    And sometimes, the parasite gets caught in a tangle, and there really is no way out...

    Ask the lying, spying, traitor and scumbag, Jonathan Pollard, like I say, not everyone in the US has sold out, there are still those that know what is happening, and will try their best to expose these anti American 'jews'.

    Zionist Jews and Jewish supremacists have made fools of you all.

    Why else does Netenyah LAUGH AT YOU, if he does not think you are fools?

    They have even tricked you into thinking your have a 'shared culture'.

    This is...a LIE.

    They are trying to convince you that the average American and the average Jew are raised in much the same way.

    I am not saying all that comes out of the Jewish community is bad, in fact, they do have some key strengths, which others could learn from.

    However, on a spiritual level, for example, since I keep getting told that America is 'nation of Christians', does it not strike you that so many American Chistians have strayed totally from how JESUS wanted people to lead their life, and are culpable of idolatory - of 'Israel', some state which was founded on Rothschild money, and the ideals of an 'atheist Jew', that being Hertzl. How on earth do you not see ... Christians that have been manipulated into slavish support for Israel, they are not pleasing Jesus, they are not trying to reach spiritual enlightenment through Jesus, they are not loving their enemies, they are not rejecting eye for an eye, as Jesus insisted you do.

    Many, and by many, it appears to be most, Christians in the US, are totally unlike any Christians, in almost any nation i can think of.

    In that they behave more like politcal Jews.

    Even their religous slant seems more Talmudic or OT, than NT.


    Does this look like American 'culture', to you?

    Does this look like European 'culture', to you?


    [video=youtube;vKq7TmfoHyM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKq7TmfoHyM[/video]
     
  4. Ivan88

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    That's pretty choice, the Brits, like the Yankees, are told it is necessary to bomb civilians into hell because the
    "terrorists" are hiding among them.

    Now the other "terrorists" are hiding their missiles among the British civilians.

    And Borat says, " you have your Islamofascist terrorist friends to thank for that." Are they same "Islamofascist" types that the Israelis, Saudis, Brits, Yanks, and Frenchies unleashed on Chechnia, Yugoslavia, Lybia and Syria?

    [​IMG]
     
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    Ivan, my friend, history has a habit of repeating itself.

    And with good reason.

    If you do the same things, over and over, it is logical that you will eventually cause the same results and consequences.

    You seem like an intelligent person, perhaps intelligent enough to understand, that while you could be unfortunate enough to be fired from two jobs, and it not be your fault, that if it were to happen in 100 jobs, it would be rather silly and delusional for you, or anyone, to believe that you were not doing things that were causing this perpetual result.

    Like a sane person, you would maybe look at why YOU had lost those 100 jobs, to see if it were a pattern of behaviour in you, right?

    If only to save it happening, again and again and again.

    Now.

    What sort of mind would you need to have, if, after 100 sackings, you never did that, always saw yourself as the victim, and blamed everyone else?

    What sort of person would you be?
     
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    Besides being a bad liar and having bad habits in making friends and influencing people, it would mean such a person hasn't figured out how to take out his enemies.

    The blame everyone else stuff is standard egoism.

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    Latest thing in portable missile launcher disguise.
     
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    Ivan, I believe it more that possible, for a given culture/movement/people, call it what you will, to become so parochial, struck with ideas of their own choseness, or the inferiority of others that are not them, so far removed from humanity, that it can trigger an almost collective mental illness, among that said group.

    I wonder if you have heard of what is called the Dark Triad?

    Here is a little about it, and remember, apply this in a collective sense, to a given culture, group, call it what you will, esp one that you may feel dominant today...

    The Dark Triad is a group of three personality traits: narcissism, Machiavellianism and psychopathy, all of which are interpersonally aversive.

    The narcissistic personality (in the clinical sense) is characterized by a grandiose self-view, a sense of entitlement, lack of empathy, and egotism. On some theories, such as Kohut, it is associated with protection of a radically weak, shamed, or damaged self.

    The Machiavellian personality is characterized by manipulation and exploitation of others, with a cynical disregard for morality and a focus on self-interest and deception.

    The psychopath, or antisocial personality, is characterized by impulsive thrill-seeking, and in its "primary" form by selfishness, callousness, lack of personal affect, superficial charm, and remorselessness.

    All three characters involve a callous-manipulative interpersonal style.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad
     
  8. Ivan88

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    What wikipedia is describing is the ego and its social self found in * un-redeemed humanity. *They haven't been saved from themselves
     
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    It is like a collective mental illness, Ivan, which, as I say, can be induced, among an entire culture imo.

    You may prefer to call it 'evil'.

    Seriously, what sort of culture would engage in routine sex abuse, within a modern city, and, rather than do what I would wish to do, which is utterly purge it, they cannot do more to cover it up?

    Even making death threats to those that want to expose it, and have justice for these poor children.

    Even engaging in an organised campaign.....to attack the child victims.

    In my culture, we out the sex beasts, and we never blame the child victim.

    And yet, in Brooklyn New York...


    SILENCE = BEING COMPLICIT.


    [video=youtube;wb_LibNPis8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wb_LibNPis8[/video]


    [video=youtube;kCzCFBRBHM0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kCzCFBRBHM0[/video]
     
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    I wonder how much London residents whined when barrage balloons were anchored on their buildings or they had to move so AA batteries could be set up? I'm guessing Napier is the type that would have lit his house up like a Christmas tree for Hitler's bombers during the Blitz.
     
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    What does this have to do with WW2?

    No.

    Fark all.

    Next...
     
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    Huh? That's sooooo leftfield as to warrant a "WTF".
     
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    Not at all. Here, let me spoon feed you and your simple pal.

    They put up AA batteries on top of buildings in London to protect Londoners from Hitler's bombers and nobody complained about that or said it would make them more likely targets.

    Nowadays the Ministry of Defense wants to put up six pitiful SAM batteries to protect the entire city of London from Muslim kamikaze pilots and some people whine about it. Those lot deserve an Airbus full of bombs in their living rooms. I'd have a laugh at them.
     
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    LOL at your nation, these so called Muslim Kamikaze pilots murdered 3000 of your citizens...and your country rewards then by giving them Libya, arming them to the teeth, providing them money and support. While they continue to enrich and arm "Al-Qaeda", they continue to scare you sh*tless with their sock puppet.

    This some funny stuff, you really think Al-Qaeda is hiding under every rock? After 9/11, Awlaki dined at the Pentagon, this is someone who supposedly had links to the hijackers, dining with top military brass in the Pentagon just months after 9/11....he's caught sometimes later in 2002, and the FBI are instructed to release him.

    How about when a large group of Taliban and Al-Qaeda fighters were cornered in the city of Kunduz, Afghanistan. What did the USA do? instead of move in and finish the fight, they sanctioned the airlift and EVACUATION of the Taliban and Al-Qaeda fighters to safety, with Pakistani air craft.

    How about when the Taliban offered to give the USA Bin Laden after the 9/11 attacks and Bush said "No"

    How about Patrick Kennedy's admission that the underwear bomber, who had ties with Awlaki, was allowed on the plane WITH the defective bomb, NO VISA, NO PASSPORT, by an unnamed US intelligence agency? - of course they scared the public, and introduced body scanners...EVEN though, he was ALLOWED on the plane.

    Can't you see that Al-Qaeda is a CIA/FBI asset? always have been...they continue to scare you with the bogeyman, yet arm and protect them in Libya and Syria, that's your government for you. Laughable indeed Mandrake, laughable.
     
  15. Courtney203

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    It is unfortunate isent it. The cold war forced us to support some of the worst dictators in the middle east. We made it fairly easy for anyone with a small army and a willingness to keep Russian influence out to take control of that country. You won't ever hear me deny that we supported dictatorships in the ME, but there was a reason for it. I still maintain that the prevention of a nuclear conflict with Russia at almost any cost, was worth the means we had to take. The ME would likely be the battleground in any ground war between Russian and the USSR. They would have suffered and dies in much greater numbers if this had ever happened.

    Now, we are trying to go back and fix what we created. And of course, these dictators are not going to just give up power when we tell them we no longer need them anymore. We try everything we possibly can to make them capitulate without us having to go in ourselves. Years of sanctions, arming opposition groups, trying to turn the public against the ruling power. After WW2, the US has slowly been becoming weary of war and our enemies know it. Otherwise they would not so openly dare us to come in and take them out. Even small militant groups are no longer afraid of us because they know we wont stay the course as soon as a few soldiers start coming home dead. It's a shame! I have always believed that if we are going to go into a conflict and risk our own lives, we need to do it right. It needs to be done quickly, decisively and with all possible means to get the job done. Im still very confused why people think war should be nice.

    It is hard to deny that they work best and most proficient in small groups. That is the key to their survival. Any nations army can beat them toe to toe in a heads up battle and they know this. That is why they work in small groups which does make it seem like they could be hiding under every rock. It is an organizations where no one person matters all that much. As long as a breathing individual still carries contempt for the west and is willing to attack, groups like AQ will exist. There is no pleasing them and being nice to them or the people that clandestinely support and harbor them wont change it. Being "nice" only gives them room to operate.

    If this is in fact true, it just goes to solidify my opinion above.

    I have done a lot of reasearch on this myself, and the Taliban never offered the U.S. Bin Laden directly. They offered to turn him over to another muslim country to be tried specifically in a muslim court by muslim law. These were conditions we could not accept for obvious reasons.

    I don't know the details of this incident but I highly doubt the U.S. government or TSA would allow someone on just to justify the use of body scanners. I don't see how installing body scanners helps anyones twisted agenda enough that they would kill people in some kind of conspiracy to have them installed. I would believe the 911 theory over this one, and that conspiracy has been proved beyond a reasonable doubt to be false.

    Yes, I do believe they were at one point. Many of the groups we are fighting now were groups we were supporting against Russian influence during the Cold war. But once we no longer needed them, it was our responsibility to rid the ME of them because we either put them there or created the conditions that allowed for their rise to power. WE ARE RESPONSIBLE and we need to step up to the plate and aleviate the ME of these dictatorships so the people can live life.
     
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    I am glad you recognize that your country is responsible for creating the turmoil in the ME by backing anyone and their dog who rose up to fight communism. The same communism funded largely by international bankers but that's another story.

    I'm sorry but clearly you didn't fully understand what I wrote. They didn't plan to kill ANYONE, the bomb was DEFECTIVE. It was a non-threat, the christmas day underway bomber was never a threat, because the bomb was utterly defective. He was setup as a below IQ patsy by an unnamed US intelligence agency [Likely CIA or FBI]

    The plot was to scare the american public to achieve two goals:

    A.) Justify the continued need for the budgets of the CIA and FBI, because a terror scare justifies their need to receive Pentagon money.
    B.) Scare the public into accepting intrusive body scanners and TSA molestation.

    Again, I stress, the bomb was DEFECTIVE. It was no threat. And the underwear bomber was a deluded imbecile. A patsy.

    And I don't know how you can deny this story. Patrick Kennedy, Undersecretary of State, SAYS SO HIMSELF, they were ready to revoke his VISA, but an unnamed US intelligence agency said "let him on the plane". In a bid to entrap a larger ring of "terrorists". It's stated unequivocally by P.Kennedy. He is allowed, knowingly, on the plane, even though he is drooling like the imbecile he is, has no VISA, or PASSPORT, and with a BOMB. Albeit a defective one.

    [video=youtube;7T0lAHi9PLY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T0lAHi9PLY[/video]

    He was allowed on the plane, no question about it. Yet the MEDIA spun the story and said, we now need body scanners, never mentioning to the public that he was actually allowed on the plane. It's clear as day.
     
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    Im still not buying it. It does not take much to take down an aircraft. Even a defective bomb can bring down an aircraft if it creates a small fire.
     
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    Please do not start with the 9/11 conspiracy nonsense. Mainstream aren't buying it and we feel alientated from anything else you are saying when you start with that.
    Mandrake has a great sense of humour but his point is: don't moan if it keeps you safe. I am definately not risking getting suicide-bombed and I'll take those restrictions on my freedom rather than be bombed. Very simple.
     
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    So because the bomb happened to be defective, we should feel safe. Pretty bloody insane.
    It simply means that they messed up - lucky for us - this time.
    We won't tolerate another time.
     
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    The point is, he was LET on the plane by a US agency. So that US agency was prepared to take that risk.

    What do you mean your not buying it? the undersecretary of state clearly says an unnamed US agency asked that the drooling would-be bomber be put on the plane...that's what you call a patsy. or an entrapment sting. He's groomed by FBI/CIA informants and given a defective bomb, let on the plane. He's caught and the MSM now scares the public with the news.

    Can't you see it? the risk to the public was of no concern to the US agency that said "get him on the plane". You have to have a really low IQ not to see what's going on here.

    Research 1993 WTC bombing, 6 dead, 1000 wounded. FBI oversaw the production of the bomb, Salem was their informant. Salem expected the FBI to swap the real bomb for the fake one, the FBI refused, it blew up. ALL FACT!

    [video=youtube;3M8QtYTplyk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M8QtYTplyk[/video]

    The FBI didn't care about US lives then...these US agencies [FBI, NSA, CIA] DO NOT CARE about you, okay? they are inherently evil in their activities. The sooner we all understand this the better.

    Anyway, that's it. I'm done...looking at Liebe's comments just took the wind out of my sails. I simply cannot continue wasting my time....I mean this is a malarkey of insanity. This is a concerto of barbaric, moronic, madness.

    Let me get to work with Jack on saving our own Britain.

    Cheerio.
     
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    Leave such to their Idolatry of all that is lying, cheating, blood thirsty, deceptive, greedy, and self destructive.

    They all had choice, just like you.

    And they chose to be slaves and idolators, of the manifestion of all evil and the worse excess of humanity.

    Unless you see yourself as a messianic figure, who believes in their salvation, I would say leave them all...with their slave masters.

    When you are confronted with their slander, or their filth, you must remember, that all they understand is the language of force.

    Truth, intellect, honesty, facts, evidence, none of that means anything to them, in reality, they just do not KNOW when to stop being obnoxious.

    So, lest you be confronted with their lies, cursing, personal abuse, death threats, etc, you must tell them 'Look, Jew, stop it. The days of you being able to throw your weight around, in the media, and constantly playing the victim...are at an end. Now behave in a respecful manner, and stop your behaviour'.

    Jack
     
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    Again, it is part about obsession for control, and part about money, as usual.

    For example, if after this cite, yet more of an industry was created, to build these scanners, and whatever else has been added to airport security(sic), for the last ten years, then my first questions might be....which companies specifically actually manufacture the hardware/software, who are they, who are they owned by, who are their shareholders, and who are they or their board otherwise linked to.
     
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    Was it ever clearly and specifically explained HOW it was 'defective'..?
     
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    It's called "the industrial-military complex".....Top of the class.
     
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    Talk about the ultimate NIMBY (not in my back yard) issue! The same sort of logic applies to this as it does to halfway houses and drug treatment centers - weigh the public good and the necessity of the location versus the potential threat to nearby residents. Obviously in this case the ability to shoot down aerial terrorist threats to Olympic venues outweighed a slightly higher danger level to the Nimby apartment dwellers.
     

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