Crime in Baltimore: PC gets involved

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  1. Dave1mo

    Dave1mo New Member

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    How many wealthy people have you seen doing that?
     
  2. CSWorden3

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    I'm not Dave, but I can certainly answer this. I'll answer it with another question: Does starvation or fear of death make people in general more likely to take from others in order to survive?

    I don't believe that racism is always the root cause for these attacks. Maybe for their targets, but if they were not in poverty the chances of these attacks actually happening would be slim to none by the same group of people.
     
  3. webrockk

    webrockk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I asked you a direct question.
     
  4. Dave1mo

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    How many wealthy people have you seen doing that?
     
  5. webrockk

    webrockk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Since we're playing the "answer a direct question with another question" game....

    if poverty stricken whites (they do exist, you know) were to gather in mobs and begin attacking innocent strangers of another race, would we be talking about the cause and effect of poverty, and economic station of the attackers....

    or racism?

    Question goes to you too, Dave.
     
  6. CSWorden3

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    Don't you see that they might be related? Most certainly racism will be the most popular topic in regards to this type of situation. But if you use your head and think about those in poverty and their need to survive then you'll understand why those poverty stricken people attack in numbers. I'm just saying its a possibility.

    This is not always the case but then the attackers are in poverty and they rob their victims it is quite likely. A lot of attacks are just fueled by straight racism too. Also, there is a correlation to lower IQ and poverty. There is also a correlation to lower IQ and racism.

    I believe black mobs are more popular because there are more blacks in poverty than whites. Just my opinion.

    I answered your question, now answer mine from post #27


    Edit: I posted a video, but after reviewing it again it didn't help my argument because there was no proof that they were poor. I took it down.
     
  7. Dave1mo

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    I'd be talking about poverty; racism is bred by ignorance, which in turn is a result of a lack of education. We can tell who is poor and uneducated on this thread relatively easily using the same logic.
     
  8. CSWorden3

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    Here's the video that didn't help my argument but instead showed that there are white mobs attacking black individuals as well. Which shouldn't be too much of a surprise. This one is most likely straight up racism, like many other cases with the colors reversed.

    [video=youtube;6pcRpyRnSnc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pcRpyRnSnc[/video]
     
  9. mikezila

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    is that why the rivers of WV run red with blood?
     
  10. webrockk

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    This one, CSWorden3? "Does starvation or fear of death make people in general more likely to take from others in order to survive?"

    If so, it's a deflective non-sequitur....as I'm not sure how it relates to "roving mobs of black youths" violently beating on people of another, specific race....

    does such behavior feed, or in any way facilitate the mob's survival...did the clothes stripped off one victim and the cell phone taken from another feed or facilitate the mob's survivial?
     
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    Your little veiled, elitist insults are a laugh-a-minute, Dave.

    I call bull(*)(*)(*)(*), Dave....you'd see nothing but racist whites, and wouldn't give two (*)(*)(*)(*)s about their socioeconomic status....it wouldn't even enter your mind.

    This conversation is over, as I'll return your baiting insult ten fold and get myself into trouble.
     
  12. Dave1mo

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    What, exactly, are you saying?
     
  13. Dave1mo

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    Just because you clearly tend to lean toward explanations involving race doesn't mean everyone else does.
     
  14. webrockk

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    He's saying there are hundreds of thousands of poor white people in WV who've somehow managed to avoid gathering in mobs to violently attack innocent people of another race.
    MOD EDIT : HOW WAS THAT ON TOPIC WITH THIS DISCUSSION?
     
  15. Dave1mo

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    And there are millions of poor black people in this country who have done the same.

    Point being?
     
  16. CSWorden3

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    (in response to my question from post #27) Of course it does. The simplest of research indicates that.

    Although you are right that racism is the sole motivator in various acts with these mobs, the correlation with poverty cannot be denied. Does Dave's point hold no weight? How many mobs are comprised of wealthier people, white or black, in comparison to mobs comprised of the overall less fortunate. There's the KKK... a bunch of white guys... but that has died down now.

    As Dave said, socioeconomic status holds the greatest correlation to crime. Hate crimes are included in the umbrella of crime.
     
  17. Trinnity

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    That is not the case.

    LOL, you're pullin' my leg, aren't you?
     
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    Certainly not for all of them. But poverty is a very strong factor in a person's involvement in crime and forming these gangs. The acts themselves are racist but crime is spawned by a more overarching thing (which is usually actual or near poverty and the factors involved with that).

    Do you agree that if these people were wealthier/better off then they would be much less likely to be involved in these hate crimes? For example, if they had college degrees and successful jobs? As Dave implied, you don't see wealthy mobs assaulting individuals.

    I guess I've gotten off topic, though.. the OP was about political correctness (which rightfully shows twisted use of PC) and not crime itself. My apologies. I will continue if you would like but if not then just let me know.
     
  19. Trinnity

    Trinnity Banned

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    Maybe it used to be, but no more.
    That's just a PC excuse.

    How much is a pair of Air Jordens these days?
     
  20. mikezila

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    rural areas many times poorer than the inner cities don't have crime problems.
     
  21. toddwv

    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your chart is from 1992...

    You do realize that it is over 20 years old, from a completely different era just like the values that you espouse.
     
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    They also don't have the population density.
     
  23. mikezila

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    that's why the FBI quotes crime rates.
     

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