Cultural Marxist Harvard Prof urges liberals to treat Christians like Nazis

Quoting again because it's dead on.

 

They see the word 'socialist' in the Nazi party's name and that's all they need to know. It's their idea of a 'gotcha', bless their pointy little heads.

 

Agreed. They were (typically) treated fairly, but sternly, and many of the practices they have today (in their government) were a result of wanting to allow them to heal and rejoin the global scape. For the most part this has succeeded. Sure Nazi war criminals were tried and executed, but remember that they were 1. Given as fair a trial as anyone could imagine, and 2. were punished according to the crimes, not based off of being the losers.

Tushnet, perhaps, was alluding to this (fair trial fair punishments) rather then jumping straight to the execution part.

 

Agreed, since the Nuremberg trials were, by all accounts fair and well managed expressions of true justice (and not the mob rule one usually would have expected) I don't see what the problem is.

I also don't see any conservatives (christian or otherwise) that committed war crimes, so obviously no need for trials in the first place!

 

This is a much more reasonable interpretation then what the OP suggests, and likely much closer to the truth. Still for a Profesor of Ha'vaud this guy really chose some poor words. ("unless that was his plan all along!" some of are more aluminum foil acquainted members may say)

Not that I agree with the Prof. on this.

 

I don't care if I found it on a Taco Bell wrapper.

Tushnet said what he said.

Attacking the source printing an exact quote is transparently desperate.

 

Who's talking about all teachers?

Pretty sure I didn't say that.

Are there a huge amount of Cultural Marxists in the school system, and especially universities?

Yep.



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Hilarious...

 

Stalin was a liberal Marxist supreme, and killed about 74 million more innocent Christians than Hitler killed Jews.

For some bizarre reason, he's not demonised in nearly the same degree.

Likely because the Cultural Marxists in the education system and media dig him.

 

LOL

Maybe Tushnet was alluding to the fact these trials were held in huge rooms with high ceilings, and he wants to build huge rooms with high ceilings for Christians and conservatives to gather in?

Liberal thought process

 

Out of curiosity, did the discussion result in name calling and childish behavior? Or was it a mature and calm discussion where both sides just presented their opinions while being respectful of the others? Did the way they handled the discussion make you feel proud of their ability to disagree in a civil manner?

Also, the majority of conservatives don't send their kids to religious schools. The reason most people are concerned about what takes place in public schools is because they cant afford to send their children to private schools. To mock people who are financially able to send their children to private schools is stupid when the left spends half their time talking about how important an education is. When my child was young we sent him to a private school, which was also a religious school, and he did very well. When we could no longer afford it due to the divorce, he had to go into the public school system. He was about 2 years ahead of the classes when he started and became bored very quickly. It was an eye opener to discover how far behind the public schools were when compared to private schools, and yes that includes private religous schools. To mock a better education is hypocritical.

 

What are the differences you see between the National socialist system in Germany and the socialist systems in the USSR or China?

 

You do know that, ultimately, we can only speculate on what the guy meant and we can come to completely valid but completely different interpretations about what Prof. said right? We can't read minds though. We're both entitled to our opinions and neither one can be proven or disproved factually correct when it comes to facts based interpretations. Right?

You want to claim that his words are probably some sort of Leftist dog whistle to kill all cons, I say he's probably calling for stern but fair treatment. I don't need to put down your opinion, however, to feel confident in mine, as you seem to.

 

You don't have to be a rabid, ideological, right wing pundit to notice how "progressives" embrace fascism in many ways, from their anti-individualism to their authoritarian impulses to their violent intolerance of opposing opinions to their fondness of all-powerful centralized government that controls individual behavior and exercises de facto control over the economy.

Even Joseph Stalin said "progressives" and fascists were two peas in a pod, and I've never heard anyone refer to Uncle Joe as a rabid, ideological, right wing pundit.

Nobel prize winning economist Friedrich von Hayek also noted the similarities between the two:

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Nationalism is not an exclusively right wing trait, and the Left has a long history of butchering its own. The "progressive" lust for power and control is a greedy, jealous and oft-violent thing...
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The subtext in his statement is glaring and transparent.

A 6 year old might be confused, but anyone else can certainly see it.

When his statement begins with "losers" and drips of anger, I'm absolutely sure the climax of his virulent rhetoric is not '"Well managed expressions of true justice" for all Christians and conservatives!'


Look, why don't we all just agree Tushnet is a Cultural Marxist and a creep, who should be fired, and be done with it.

 

Would you really enjoy our little online chats as much were it so easy?

For the record, I can see your interpretations of what was said and meant, but I'm not willing to agree it. The other stuff about Cult Marx and being a creep, that may be true but again, not enough evidence for me to agree.

This was a fun thread to follow though.

 

Not initially, but this has droned on for almost 40 pages.

Glad you enjoyed it (no sarcasm)



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Very civil.

The quality of public vs private education often depends on location. My district is ranked 88th in the state of NJ, which tends to rank higher on the scale of public education compared to other states, or at least it did before Christie decided to wage his war on it. Most students who come to my district from private schools tend to need to play catch-up. I usually tell parents considering sending their kids to private school to save their money because this district is a better option.

I also started off my first year teaching in the Catholic school, where the point of view I was allowed to present was highly regulated on any given topic. Religious schools don't always add up to better education, but do make for excellent propaganda machines if you want to make sure your child is getting only one-side of any argument.

I don't know how the public school system performs in Arkansas, but perhaps there's some truth to your comments. After all, if I were living in Mississippi, I might be sending my kids to private school. Perhaps we can both learn a lesson not assuming our own experiences are the norm all over the nation.

 

That doesn't mean they're pushing their agenda in the classroom. Teachers have opinions (shocker). They express them sometimes online. I have a facebook account and an account on two political forums. Yeah, I express my opinions online, sometimes in crude and offensive ways (one of the reasons why I like that this site is anonymous). That doesn't mean I do the same thing in the classroom.

 

Some (retarded) people don't understand that teachers have the ability to turn their views off once they cross the classroom threshold.

 

wrong!!! the public schools have become liberal cesspools turning out about the dumbest kids in the civilized world. Liberals support the status quo because it is their cesspool and/or they cant admit utter failure and/or cant understand that a cesspool is a failure.

 

Some people think that teaching means filling a student's head with their own opinions.

Critical thinking skills is the single most important thing a student can learn in elementary and high school. That ability only really comes from looking at a topic from multiple perspectives and weighing the pros and cons as they relate to yourself. You don't really get that skill if you're only offered one perspective.

Without you end up spewing (and liking) very stupid things like the post above.

 

I come from a teacher background. My dad, 4 aunt's and uncle's, and my sister are all teachers.

 

all govt unions employees? all liberal?? all proud of turning out the dumbest kids in the civilized world??

 

No, moron, all of them are staunch conservatives. See what happens when you talk out your ass? You spew diarrhea.