Culture of Shootings , "Thoughts and Prayers" But No Solutions

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  1. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, they have laws to keep their horses in the barn, but our horses are already a hundred miles away + we have a large segment of the population who insist on keeping it that way.
     
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    MiaBleu Well-Known Member

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    So how do the rate f shootings Californian compare to other Sates........??
     
  3. MiaBleu

    MiaBleu Well-Known Member

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    Indeed.
     
  4. Heartburn

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    The uncertainty, stress and financial problems people are facing from the measures taken to fight the pandemic may be playing a role. The stress on some is destructive.
     
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    indeed. Yet , if they had taken no measure........the out come would have been a lot more grim than it has been.
     
  6. Heartburn

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    Human beings have always been at their best in times of great threat. We would have fought this together and nobody would have been forced to die alone and away from family. The fatality rate was never all that high, still isn't and yet we are lined up on opposite teams divided by masks and business restrictions. Herd immunity, the natural kind, would have developed and we would have survived as we always do. This isn't Ebola.
     
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    Perhap NOT!

    It was about addressing aggressive behavior may
    result in humans suffering high density living
    as confirmed in rat experiments.

    :angered:
     
  8. TOG 6

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    And so, you agree:
    Other countries may have lower rates of gun violence, but not because of their laws.
     
  9. MiaBleu

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    This has obviously contributed to a lot of frustration. Frustration leads to anger.....anger can lead to violence. Mental health issues have risen too. It is a melting pot of issues now.

    Not sure any laws can fully prevent peple from going off crazy and shooting others. They have access to guns.......and that has the greatest bang for the buck.....when it comes to destruction. I think that more education about mental unhealth symptoms, behaviors If folks got help earlier , and enhanced their coping skills........it could go along way to a calmer society.
     
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    I think it is a cultural thing too. Laws play a role......but it is the PEOPLE and their attitudes as a culture that factor in . I also thin that education plays a big role too.
    The more educated (equals better jobs) a society and the better the overall health care ( physical and mental)....... the better the society.......and less violence.
     
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    Not to minimize violence, but about three times as many people die in auto accidents as are murdered with guns. Of all deaths in America, the percentage of those who die being murdered by the misuse of guns is about 0.4%. So 99.6% of all deaths are by other means. Guns take center stage because the goal of tyrants in the media and government is to disarm the American people. It is their goal, their pet peeve and fixation.
     
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    I think getting back to work, open theaters and all sporting events and bars/clubs. Get people back together doing things they enjoy and looking forward to events like we always have. Let's get to know each other again
     
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    Yes.. high density living would be a contributing factor. Add weapons into the mix.........
     
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    This one is California.
     
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    you are so right.....Resuming normal relationships and activities will go along way to diffuse the over all situation. Being active, productive ( at work) , sharing with fiends and family.......are al l so essential for our collective well being.
     
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    And so, you -definitely- agree:
    Other countries may have lower rates of gun violence, but not because of their laws.
     
  17. Richard Franks

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    You have to ask yourselves: Why do they do this? There must be a reason for all these killings especially in Santa Clara County in California. I want to say that guns do not solve problems and they never have and never will. That is a fact.
     
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    As evidenced by the 21st century success stories that are Nazi Germany and Imperial japan.
     
  19. MiaBleu

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    A quiet bipartisan effort on gun background checks may have a path to a deal

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...=857693951420692326&utm_medium=Email Sailthru


    interesting. Of course there should be background checks. What is included in those checks should be well known..

    When it comes to weapons , there have to be rules with expectations of responsible behavior. Otherwise one has something close to what is currently in existence. Shoot first....and don't even bother to ask questions later.
     
  20. MiaBleu

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    different situation totally. Personal use weapons is the issue here..
     
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    I don't have a problem with what they hope to do, but I have my doubts it could make it through both chambers without the democrats hanging a poison pill around its neck, particularly in the House. Background checks have never bothered me TBH. Really no different than a car dealership making sure a car is covered by insurance before they hand you the keys.
     
  22. MiaBleu

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    sad that politics are such an obstacle to do what is right for a population. Or making the people's safety and well being come first. It seems that they have forgotten what they were elected to do and for whom. Power ad hanging on to power is their main objective now.
     
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  23. Richard Franks

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    Campaigns are fought on current issues, not past performance, so they would rather have things unsettled than resolved. I don't think the dems in the House will let this one fly without attaching a bunch of deal-killers to the deal for that reason, because they are ruled by extremists, and for the more practical reason that getting a tiny little something will take too much wind out of their sails on the issue.
     
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    Guns most certainly do solve problems. On a very regular basis.
     

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