David Cameron to Trump: Your ‘fake news’ act is ‘dangerous’

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  1. Hoosier8

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    Sure he did. You don’t remember?
     
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    The left-allied Mainstream Media has worked very, very hard since 2008 to lose the public's trust all on its own by openly working for the DNC. Nobody ordered the MSM to become the permanent political propaganda arm of the Democratic Party and so they and their shills and supporters have got no one to blame but themselves. All Trump is doing is putting a name to what the rest of the nation has increasingly become aware of for many years now, that the political Left controls the MSM and so the MSM is NOT to . . . be . . . trusted.
     
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    No, Einstein, it means it was FAKE news. Acknowledging fake news is fake doesn't make fake news real.
     
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    The world was " quite fine " before the election. Trump ran his campaign on how bad America was and only he could fix it.

    Trade deals, regulations, illegals, the war etc.all were terrible for America. All from Trump was BS !

    Economy was great, USA was at near Full Employment. Corporations making record profits. Housing sales thru the roof.

    Trump tried rushing thru trash Healthcare Bills. Patriotic Republicans voted against.

    Republicans are rushing thru a Partisan Tax Cut for the Wealthy that will add to the Deficit that 27 % of Americans are against.

    World Leaders rally against Trump realizing America can't be counted on. Trump has escalated tensions with North Korea.

    No Trump has made the world unstable and much much worse.......... He's in it just for himself
     
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    Don't be too anal about the %. The point I was trying to get across is they are usually more right than wrong, and sometimes getting things wrong doesn't make them fake news. I think their accuracy is higher than 80%.

    Unless of course, you are a liar, which Donald Trump is. He habitually lies to make him look better, and calling MSM fake news is a lie of that nature.

    For all the negative things they report about Trump, how many are lies? Are fake?
     
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    C'mon now, that's fantasy.
     
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    If you went to subway every day and ordered a ham sandwich, and 1 in five times it had **** instead of mayo, how long would you keep eating it?
     
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    I can analogies too:
    If you have 80% chance of winning at black jack in Las Vegas on every hand, how long would you keep gambling?
     
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    So you see the watchdog, charged with the burden of keeping our rulers transparent... like a game of chance? Because I see that information more like food.
     
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    You fight fake news by being the most truthful and transparent that you can, since our president is already historically the biggest liar in history I dont see that happening.

    Also when the MSM reports on the completely bone head things trump does and says thats on trump. Bannon and the alt right have infected so many people with lies and conspiracies its so disgusting.
     
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    No, but I think the watchdogs get most of their stories right and I would be a fool to dismiss them entirely because their accuracy isn't 100%.

    Btw do you dismiss Trump's words entirely because he lies most of the time?
     
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    I dismiss what most polititians say most of the time. I pay attention to their actions.

    As to the news, I choose my sources more carefully.
     
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    So do you think Trump is a liar?

    Also, what sources of yours have satisfactory credibility by your standard? Let's hear it. I would totally go to those sources if their accuracy is bar none the best.
     
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    That's all you've been doing in this thread, only with childish picture spam.

    Getting a significant majority of stories correct, and only having a tiny handful out of tens of thousands be incorrect is not fake news. The fact you can count on your fingers the corrections a year for each publications, out of 10,000s each put out is striking. And those handful of unintentionally incorrect stories are quickly corrected or retracted. People are fired or suspended. This is high accountability to the statistically rare event stories are off.

    That objectively isn't fake news. Using blanket statements and saying all media except far far right organizations are "fake" is simply untrue factually speaking.

    Fake news would be Infowars, Gateway Pundit, The Pizzagate Cernovich, Veritas, and Trump Twitter. Significant amounts of incorrect information, and very little corrections.

    Which is why those things are rated lower for trust than "MSM" in several studies and polls. But I know you won't contest this fact.
     
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    Putting a child down is never a responsible method.
     
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    then I guess in your opinion he should have launched nukes at Russia.
     
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    I think it is much worse than Trump being a liar... I think he believes most of what he says, esp off the cuff.

    Depends on the news I am looking for. I like AP and BBC, CSPAN, POGO... congress.gov actually. I like NPR typically as well. I like the guardian, even when their biases show, because their news is usually distinguished frop their op ed.

    I listen to FOX and CNN despite their bias and inaccuracy, primarily due to their resources, then I look for confirmation. I also look here, and treat this place much the same.
     
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    Harsh.
     
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    I think one day people will fully comprehend the harm this man has done to the world. The war and death his hands are soaked by. The illegal arming of bad people... the **** that went down in Lybia and Syria. I fully expect that nothing came of the Benghazi investigations because he was deeply involved in the black op going on there trying to funnel war weapons to Syria... and the republicans wanted to hang Hillary, without involving the republicans involved.
     
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    Nothing in the first Amendment says trust the ****ing media. There were media dangerous media hacks when the first Amendment was written.
     
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    Stop trying he checkmated you. Its over you lost.
     
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    Nothing in the first Amendment says trust the ****ing press genius. Read some *******n it. Our founders were affraid of the power the press can yeild if unchecked by a sceptical public and state. But the also believed that the government censoring the press was worse.

    Madison would slap you upside the head for the argument you just made.
     
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    What do you mean it is worse than Trump being a liar? What do you mean by "it"?

    So is it fair to say that you label Fox and CNN as fake news outlets?

    Of all the negative stories CNN has done on Trump, which ones were fake? What were the first stories CNN did that led to Trump start calling it fake news?
     

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