DEBUNKING the anti-masker lies and misrepresentation of the so called "Danish Study"

And than we get an other person who says the same thing, but doesn't get within 14 feet.
And than we get yet an other person who says the same, but uses 13 feet.
Catch my drift.... not to mention, people tend to lie about "never" being within a certain amount of a distance.

The real issue is that the amount of people who are residing in the hospitals.
Wearing a mask is just a measurement in an attempt to stop that, just like your walmart example.

We should have a name for people who expect a hospital bed is ready for them, when they need it for a cancer treatment or for being shot.... when they refused to play their part in curbing the pandemic and because of them being a significant group there are no beds empty to be found.

 

2009 study came to the same conclusion about mask effectiveness with viruses. Where is the actual scientific study showing they work?

 

We know what the platforms are. Facebook, among companies, use algoritmes to figure out where your interests lie. The company simply will feed you more stories that masks don't work ones you read 1 or 2 articles about it.... because the company figured out that this is what you like to read, and the more you click the more the company earns. The company simply goes in to maximize the amount they can earn for the time a user is on their pages. They aint there to give you opinions from opposing views. And when you read anti mask info, than you probably also like to read about bill gates conspiracies, how 5G supposedly plays a roll in spreading covid.

There is also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect


And let's be frank. There is nothing new about a virus spreading around like a respiratory infection. There is nothing new about wearing masks is a way to protect yourself and other people. Physicians have been using masks "since ever". And so like "who knew" when using a crappy mask (compared to physicians) helps in a crappy way... but it helps and is cheap as dirt. It says so right on the site of the US government. Don't know any foreign country that dares to say otherwise. A scientific paper like "Nature" says it works....

So what's up thinking there is a need for swapping arguments about it? This discussion ended like 50 years ago. You either put your trust in science as we now know it -saying it helps- or you don't. People who still claim it doesn't work because of this or that study, are simply trapped in what Google / Facebook feeds them while unwilling to find/read the actual research saying otherwise. For instance it's been posted all over post nr 1 what science has to say, yet Hoosier is unable to find it (post 27).


The only thing that bothers me a bit is the sheer amount of people who follow 5G covid spread conspiracies / bill gates conspiracies, flat earthers. But I guess people are still as easy to be indoctrinated as before.

 

There is one link after the other in the OP, and here you are saying you can't find them. And a 2009 study about covid? lol.
I dunno why anybody should bother with your opinion and so called studies.

 

Viruses. Masks are effective on bacteria. No study shows the stop viruses.

 

No one said that they stop every virus. How many times does that have to be said?

 

The virus is mostly if not all trapped in tiny water particles. Cloth soaks up water and so the virus as well. That some particles will flow through a cloth mask doesn't mean it doesn't work at all. Studies have shown that. If you are going to claim the virus is not in them tiny water particles or that cloth doesn't soak up water, than we're done for obvious reasons.

Also you first wondered where them studies are. I posted where. And 1 minute later you claim the studies don't show that..... obviously the conclusion is that in that 1 minute you have not read any study, you just imagined that you did. That's where you went wrong and started to pollute your nonsense on this site.

 

The virtue of censorship itself isn't absolute but a case such as this when the thing being censored has a direct relationship with sickness and death its virtue is obvious.

 

Well not to be rude but dumb people have always managed to divide themselves away from the rest of us and this wont be the last opportunity for them to do so. But the part in bold has been responded to countless times. You're not wearing a mask solely to protect yourself, you're wearing to become a link in a chain that aims to reduce the amount of infectious spew in the air. Time and time and time and time and time and time again anti-maskers have been told this and yet still we have to fight them over this basic misconception. I don't know if its ignorance or selfishness or a combination of the two but anti-maskers are being asked to play a critical role. We need them, we need you, we need every anti-masker to be part of this. Help the country, help the community, wear a mask.

 

Yeah but I think your argument runs into trouble because we will end up with a "benevolent censorship" that controls the acceptable range of debate according to what is deemed "healthy". Also, some people will take that and move to impose additional regulations on how we are allowed to discuss virtually all health issues as health-essentialists.

If we can't dispute Covid research then why should be able to dispute any research? If we mandate masks then why don't we mandate that everyone put sunscreen on exposed skin in public spaces and have sunscreen checkpoints at the beach from now on, since preventable skin cancer adds stress to our healthcare system too? And why not ban nicotine and alcohol since those are unhealthy substances? I'm sure this can never happen so why try it with Covid mitigation efforts? People must be allowed to say what they believe and do what they think is best for their personal wellbeing when it comes to health.

 

I appreciate your putting up a picture I've already seen, thanks again.

Yes, I understand the advantage and subtleties of propaganda that imparts a sense of being vicarious and altruistic to the wearing of a mask. Yes, tugging on those heartstrings of altruism is a sweet appeal to emotion. I have several very good friends in the same mindset.

They have convinced themselves they are a carrier of the virus, and they are wearing their mask to protect me and the rest of the human race. How kind and generous those people are, and sweetly deluded.

Because in the meantime, at least according to mainstream media, the virus marches on, mask or no mask. Hospitals are overwhelmed, and the sky is falling, mask or no mask. The NFL and college football postpone and cancel games as the virus marches on, mask or no mask. Slowly but surely, herd immunity too marches on, mask or no mask.

 

months ago you stated that Sweden had reached herd immunity

At the current rate years away from herd immunity if ever reached (virus may mutate by then meaning no herd immunity)

 

And I've said that parts of this country have reached some level of herd immunity too. So what's your point?

Reaching herd immunity does not mean that nobody gets sick anymore, it simply means the herd has coped with the presence of the virus.

You might not know this, but we humans live with at least millions of virus in our bodies.

That so many are fearful of this particular one simply shows how well the propaganda and fear-mongering have worked.

 

Entirely possible and we'll definitely need to keep an eye on that in the future.

Thing is with sunscreen smoking alcohol, the negative impacts such as skin cancer, lung cancer, liver/heart damage and whatnot are personal consequences. And smoking is a great example to illustrate the difference between personal and public consequences when we're talking about when enforcement needs to step in to stop people from doing things. Back in the day you could anywhere at any time. You could chain smoke in a maternity ward and no one would bat an eye. You could go into bars and restaurants and see actual clouds of smoke on the ceiling. Then over time people realized smoking was harmful not only to the smoker but to anyone around them. And so gradually you saw places like hospitals and your work office ban smoking inside, you saw bars and restaurants create smoking sections, eventually the law caught up and codified restrictions in order to limit the public consequences. This is basically where we are with masks.

 

Well, the 300,000 deaths and the millions of severe illnesses in 10 months in the USA possibly was even working better than propaganda has!

 

Forever the Drama Queen.

 

So 300,000 deaths and millions of severe illnesses and full and so full very sick Americans are being sent home without treatment makes me a "drama queen"?

To me, people making jokes of 300,000 dead Americans and millions of severely ill sick and hospitals so full that sick people to go home to both make family members sick and sometimes watch those sick people die means many of these indifferent "jokers" are monsters and murderers in their fraudulently claims in order to get everyoneback to work to increase their stock markets portfolios rise.

 

Bumping this thread again because the dangerous fake news pack of lies other thread that this one debunks is still in the top 5 every day.

 

Operation Covid's Official Narrative is nothing but a pack of lies, propaganda and fear-mongering, the dogma of The Church of The Poisoned Mind.

 

Why did Dr. Fauci, the Surgeon General, everyone of the claimed experts and all commentators on CNN, MSNBC, FOX, the other networks all urge people not to wear masks because you are most likely to infect yourself? They are all liars? Were they lying then or lying now?

 

Nobody made such a claim! Lol

 

They all did. On TV. On the radio.

 

Then produce the evidence.

Oh wait! You can't because there is none.

 

The most amusing behavior I see regarding the wearing of masks is the donning of masks to walk through a doorway into a building, and then removing the mask.

I guess those doing that realize the virus is pretty darn smart, and it waits in the doorway for unsuspecting victims. People are funny.

 

Sounds like you're describing anti-masker trash people who put one on to get past checkpoints knowing retailers focus their efforts at the door and not on the floor. I've seen it here myself but smart is not a word I'd used to describe these sorts.