Dem Strategy

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by Ernest T., Oct 30, 2019.

  1. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    What do you think the LGBTQ want?
    Even a flat tax would dramatically increase taxes on poor people paying little or no tax now. I don't think liberals will support tax increases on poor people.
    I doubt it's a priority.
    Not on the table.
    Are you opposed to banning machine guns? Assault rifles? Handguns?
    I dunno. He seems more rightwing than most Americans.
     
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    I think the LGBTQ community want to force their views on everyone else. They want kids abused by confusing them about their gender. They want to force the idea that these aren't lifestyle choices and therefore force non discrimination laws. That kind of thing.

    No new taxes period.. and no deficit spending..

    Taxing churches is on the table, have you listened to what people on this very forumn say?

    Yes i am opposed to banning machine guns, semiautomatic sporting rifles or hand guns.


    What about him is right wing?
     
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    My feeling is nobody really cares about the opinion of house dems except fake news, hollywood, and the comparatively small population with TDS.

    I also believe Trump holds all the cards. He has the military, law enforcement, and a very large segment of the population that will go to bat for him should the need arise.

    The trick is to not have to use these cards unless absolutely necessary. Peace is always a better option for everyone. The dems want to disturb the peace and hope for some kind of advantage in the chaos because that's their only shot at staying in power. It won't work, but their not gonna just admit defeat.

    I think Trump, or proxies, will begin a counter offensive by releasing major dirt on the dems and neocons. This will sway any fence sitters, and further marginalize people with TDS. They will become even more batty, and unattractive to regular people. They already sound like homeless schizos, so it won't be hard to do.

    That's how it looks from my house.
     
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    It's over. Homosexuality is an accepted part of American society.
    What are we going to do with twice as many indigent seniors require skilled nursing?
    I wouldn't worry about that one.
    Machine guns are already banned--well, recently manufactured weapons. Why should we legalize them now?
    His attitude toward minorities, his opposition to abortion.
     
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    What about an attitude towards minorities make one right wing?
    Racism is NOT a right wing thing. That's a progressive lie.

    Why should machine guns be illegal???

    Homosexuality is accepted as normal because of lies. I am all for live and let live but the LGBTQ community wants to force people to accept it as good and normal. As though they were a legitimate minority.

    No one making a choice should be considered a minority. They are just people like the rest of us. They don't need special protection. Especially when such protections violate others first ammendment rights.
     
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    "Should the need arise?" Based on what happening?
    Democrats are going to do what?
    Trump had better do something soon.

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    I almost did, but I just hate trying to predict the future.

    I don't think this circus is going to change anything, except possibly what the Dems could have been focussing their energy on instead. What that would've been, we'll never know.
     
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    Those are posts where someone has quoted me and put their responses inside my quotes.. a few of those words are mine but not sure what is being said.
     
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    Trump makes no effort to bring minorities into his government.
    My opinion? Because they escalate the risk for police.
    What lies? Homosexuality occurs throughout history, across cultures, to both genders, and is not impacted by efforts to stomp it out.
    What's not legit about them?
    There is strong evidence homosexuality isn't a choice.
    What special protection are you talking about that impacts free speech?
     
  10. LangleyMan

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    When I saw my error in attributing comments to you, I went back to correct the post but I outside the fifteen minute edit window. Sorry about that.
     
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    Mistreatment of minorities is not a right wing trait.. if trump mistreats minorities he is not acting like a right winger.

    Having people free to move around and drive greatly escalates the danger for police. Having people free to used drugs and drink alcohol escalates the danger for police.
    All trypes of freedom escalates the danger for police.

    I have no interest in stomping out homosexuality. I do have an interest in maintaining my freedom of religion and freedom of speech. Including my freedom to say that homosexuality is a sin and to say that putting a 7 yo boy in a dress and calling him a girl is child abuse and prosecute people who do it they are in fact criminals.

    There is evidence that how kids experience things can turn them homosexual.

    The first ammendment isn't mostly about free speech. It's mostly about freedom of religion. Adopting for instance hate speech laws related to homosexuality would be z violation of freedom of religion .
     
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    No worries :)

    .i was reading and. Thinking "i wrote that"
    I never use the word proxies. Was wondering if someone hacked my account.

    Which i totally wouldn't put past the Democrats :)
     
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    I think the calculation has little to do with Trump actually being removed or not. What Dems in swing states have decided is that this will not negatively impact their re-election In short, because the nature of these allegations are directly motivated by a fixation to win re-election, Dems can be forgiven for thinking he has become dangerous and the very remedy, that independents and moderates intended to use to ditch him to the curb, may be too corrupted and compromised if they don't do something.

    I am not saying that the calculation is that voters will support impeachment, I am saying voters feel sufficiently ambivalent about this man's compulsion to win at almost any cost, that they will forgive Dems who do support impeachment. And that is enough for moderates to vote in favor of holding him accountable.
     
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    I think you are right supporting impeachment isn't going to hurt any lawmakers reelection.

    I think anyone showing obvious political bias will be hurt.
    Anyone not up for reelection in 2020 is safe we won't remember any of this in 2022.
     
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    Q1: If the dems initiate a civil war, and cause civil unrest. I don't think it will get that bad, but Trump could declare martial law and empower posse comitatus to suppress lawlessness if law enforcement is spread too thin.

    Q2: Democrats are going to do what they're doing now. Grasping for power by hook or by crook.
     
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    Opposing unfair trade agreements and keeping out illegal cheap labor use to be the domain of liberals, especially the pro union factions.
     
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    No need if you have eyes and ears, oh, and more than a few brain cells.
     
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    You must be joking. Liberals are all about usage fees, sales tax and gas tax...... all regressive taxation methods that are catastrophic to the working poor. For instance, our new liberal governor just upped the gas tax. The outgoing conservative governor had lightened up the regressive tax load, that is all being erased now.

    Liberals are more than down with taxing the crap out of the working poor. For you to pretend otherwise is ignorant at best, disingenuous at worst.

    https://www.seattletimes.com/busine...ogressive-politics-but-regressive-tax-system/
     
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    There's no way the military or most police departments would put up with Trump declaring martial law, the political pipe dream of rightwing extremists.
    Same as Republicans.
     
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    What if, like the Mueller Report, there is no 'damning evidence'? Any idea what that damning evidence might be or are you just being hopeful?
     
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    Any one who thinks the Mueller report contains no damning evidence hasn't done their research.
     
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    We were talking about income taxes. Wake up.
     
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    The damning evidence in the Mueller report is on obstruction.
     
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    So the Democrats have this damning evidence but are keeping it a secret? Great strategy.
     
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    You're blowing smoke--again.
     

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