Democratic lawmaker criticized for tweeting names of Trump donors

Nope, I'm talking about the anti-lifers, those that proclaim their divine inspiration tells them a potential has more rights than an actual. Not reason, or science. No, no, no. It's faith. Or do you equate a woman's right to decide if she reproduces or not with a mass murderer's vileness to slaughter in the name of racism?

 

See. You proved my point. Ideas matter, as we are about to learn, and not pleasantly so.

 

If you study history, especially the history of Germany, and especially the history of pre-Hitler Germany, you will find dozens of major politicians who did the equivalent of the things you're crediting Trump with. They were conservative nationalists, many of them anti-Semites of the milder sort. They didn't "pave the way" for Hitler, as you might think, they just responded to widespread sentiment in the German population. Hitler despised them, in fact.

Trump is an impulsive idiot, whose views on American politics, race, etc are just the standard average for his generation. What he doesn't do is filter them through the net of Political Correctness, which he should.

A real American Hitler, if one arises, will be much more shrewd than Trump. He will steal the Left's clothes on many issues, just as Hitler stole the Socialists' clothes. He will do as Hitler did, and build an organization modelled on the cadre-combat party model of the Bolsheviks. He will frame it, as the SA was originally framed, as a defensive organization. (The SA benefitted enormously from the aggressive tactics of the Communists, who were easily baited into attacking first. The SA refrained from attacking the police, but the Communists didn't, which resulted in a slow shift of sympathies among the police in favor of the Nazis.)

American was founded on the abstract idea of human equality, no matter that it was not immediately applied. Its logic finally played out two hundred years later, and for the last fifty years, Americans have been doused in the idea of equal rights for all. This is why Trump can easily make pronouncements attacking the neo-Nazis and expressing sympathy for the people who have been murdered by the racists and crazies -- it's the natural thing for any American politician to say. And it explains why conservatives have been so keen to find a qualified Black to head the Republican ticket, and why they love to quote Black and Hispanic conservative thinkers on various issues.

But this can change. As the Left pushes 'identity politics' for its own pet groups, it inadvertently makes the idea permissible elsewhere.

If you think white Republican America is 'racist' today, well, you ain't seen nuthin' yet. (Remember: to a leftie, 'racist' means you think everyone should be treated equally -- for instance, college admissions should be strictly on merit. In other words, you're a racist if you oppose racial discrimination.)

 

Ok

I guess in lib la la land if you’ve seen one critic of the hispanic invasion you’ve seen them all

 

All of the people panicking realize that this was already public information . . . right?

 

Far-Left Protesters At Mcconnell’s Home: ‘Just Stab The Mother F***er In The Heart’

 

We're going to have to "red flag" that psycho's cutlery purchases.

 

And Trump supporters scream about murdering illegal immigrants at Trump rallies and he laughs it off. And? Look, that quote is deplorable . . . but it also dodges what I actually said. Care to try again?

 

Thats a lie

Trump supporters do not say murder illegal aliens

But we do want them stopped at the border and deported if they are already here

 

Has anyone advocated his 'right to slaughter"?

No one has done that and, in fact, everyone has condemned this guy. But we must also understand motive., We can look at those people outside Mitch McConnell's house who also ascribed violence and death. Shouldn't we understand their motives, why they advocate violence, and what led them to their actions?

What is happening to the country when people are getting stirred up to such a degree that they will condone of commit violence in order to support whatever goofy ideas they may have. Far from hiding these opinions they should be brought into the open and those who do support violence in any form should be asked why.

Blaming Trump's 'rhetoric' is just a false flag. There were dozens of these mass murders during the Obama Administration also. This El Paso killer opinions were likely stifled as being racist, etc. so he felt that this was the only way he could get his views across. All people should be free to express their opinions openly without threats or prejudice. If not this is just an escalation of what Antifa, with the complicity of the left, has been doing. The country has to do a major rethink but right now much of it is being fueled by emotions.

 

Who told you that?

 

Live video of the incident

 

Yes, they did. In front of him. And he laughed it off.

 

Great! Can you submit the link?

 

One small correction: these were asylum seekers, so even calling them "illegal" is presumptuous, but here you are:

You seriously going to tell me this is the first you've heard about this. Then, of course, we've also had forumites suggest everything from turrets to landmines to accomplish the same. Murder cheerleading is, unfortunately, becoming mainstream.

 

I listened to that video, and it does not carry the message you said it does. It just takes a few minutes ... everyone should listen to it. Nowadays we expect politically-correct piety from our politicians, and Trump doesn't do politically-correct piety. No one took the "shoot them" seriously, and if we did a search, we could almost certainly find equally crass, but unserious, remarks from leftwing crowds.

As for "mainstreaming|" murder ....of course, the idea of killing people, or approving of their deaths, is always viewed through partisan lenses. Jane Fonda training an anti-aircraft gun, pretending to shoot down American airmen, was laughed off by the Left.

We heard no pious condemnation from the Left when the "anti-racist" faux-Indian professor Ward Churchill dismissed the people falling from the Twin Towers as "little Eichmans".

The Left still idolizes the Black Panthers, whose main slogan was "Off the Pig" -- and "Off" was not being used as a preposition, but as a verb.

 

Reason and science is not what determines morality.

 

Listen, the world moves forward or backward based on what ideas are held to be true.

His first mind fruck: He agrees with The Replacement--what is this if not pure fascist nationalism in the name of race? Too many Muslims, too many Hispanics, too many Asians, not enough whites? WTF? You agree with that? Go wash your brain out with some reason

His second mind fruck: Capitalism is destroying the world and human life because it places profit before humanity. WTF? How the hell can anyone exist, let alone a business, without producing more than you consume? Cannibalism? You agree with that? Go back and wash your brain out with some more reason.

His third mind mind fruck: Selfish Americans enjoying life, peace, and prosperity are destroying the environment and they won't change their selfish ways, and the government won't make them because its owned by big business whose only motive is profit, so I have to help thin out the herd to make sure there's enough left for me and mine. Genocide as a solution to pollution? Did even Hitler go that far? And you agree with that? Go wash your brain out with some more reason, a lot more.

And his last mind fruck: My life is screwed because I have no future. Well, he's sure right about that now, isn't he? But his reasoning is straight out of a "Terminator" nightmare fantasy, machines will rule the world? WTF. Homicidal rage as an answer for unemployment? You agree with that? Oh, hell, then let's all just start slaughtering each other and end the charade of civilization.

To save himself, to live his life, to build his future, and to pursue his happiness, all he needed to do was think--something he had the liberty to do at any time before he decided to become a monster.

 

Plugging your ears and screaming lalala or desperately scrambling to change the subject only avoids the truth. The video is exactly as I described it. Join me back in reality and we can discuss it. Or keep avoiding reality. Your choice.

 

Morality. Right or Wrong? What does your reason say: Eating sand will save you from dying from thirst. Reason: bull-fkn sht. Faith: God will provide. Now, you tell me again that reason has nothing to do with morality.

I submit this monster's actions proves reason has everything to do with morality. He had none. Just insane beliefs based on the emotions and hysterical fears. And 22 innocent souls are gone. How many more to come? Just because there are those who refuse to think. I couldn't think of a more purer example of why reason is essential to morality.

"Since reason is man’s basic means of survival, that which is proper to the life of a rational being is the good; that which negates, opposes or destroys it is the evil. Since everything man needs has to be discovered by his own mind and produced by his own effort, the two essentials of the method of survival proper to a rational being are: thinking and productive work.:--http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/morality.html



"When the ablest men turn into cowards, the average men turn into brutes"--Ayn Rand.
He proves the case.

 

That's certainly what you're faith is.

Reason exists because when it's correct it's the result of stumbling across God's law.

 

God can kiss my ass.


"Do not say that you’re afraid to trust your mind because you know so little. Are you safer in surrendering to mystics and discarding the little that you know? Live and act within the limit of your knowledge and keep expanding it to the limit of your life. Redeem your mind from the hockshops of authority. Accept the fact that you are not omniscient, but playing a zombie will not give you omniscience—that your mind is fallible, but becoming mindless will not make you infallible—that an error made on your own is safer than ten truths accepted on faith, because the first leaves you the means to correct it, but the second destroys your capacity to distinguish truth from error"--http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/faith.html

When men surrender reason to faith, force is their final argument. I submit this madman as proof.

 

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So much for those American “conservatives” who claim that religion is the base of capitalism—and who believe that they can have capitalism and eat it, too, as the moral cannibalism of the altruist ethics demands.--http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/religion.html

If there was a God, He'd be fighting to save man from the religious right.

 

Better yet, let everyone listen to it, as I suggested.
But I am more than willing to discuss politically-inspired violence, and apologists for it.
It would be good to look at some examples of apologists for murder, killer-heroes of the Left, now presented as butter-wouldn't-melt-in-their-mouths 'political prisoners' by the Left. But then, those people are dead serious. The incarcerated Leftist heroes were dead serious about killing policement, security guards, FBI agents, and random bystanders.

So let's stick with crude humor. Turns out, it's not all to be found among the unwashed deplorables.



The actress Carole Cook in April. In a reference to President Trump on Sunday, she joked, “Where is John Wilkes Booth when you need him?”


Actor Johnny Depp is now facing the spotlight after casually joking about the assassination of President Donald Trump in England yesterday.



Bill Maher is making headlines after he joked about an assassination attempt on Donald Trump. The HBO host and satirist made the quip about the GOP presidential nominee Sunday while speaking at the DAR Constitution Hall in Washington, D.C




Liberal author Fran Lebowitz is sparking outrage after she claimed the president “deserves” the same fate as Washington Post writer Jamal Khashoggi.

And of course, Kathy Griffin, the plum of them all:


Now you may say, and I would totally agree, that Trump laid himself open to this by his crude jokes about defending the Second Amendment through assassinating Hillary. And there was huge self-righteous faux indignation after all these anti-Trump assassination jokes, of the same pious phoney genre as the reference to the video of Trump's response to the crude "shoot 'em" at his rally.

American politics is crude. But we shouldn't joke about assassinating political leaders. Remember JFK, assassinated by a communist, and RFK, assassinated by a Palestinian nationalist.

 

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