Democrats bill to allow abortion during labor

You may hear that there will be more Texas women going out of state for their abortions and if the states that border Texas follow suit, Then they'll have to travel out further out more and more maybe to California or New York where they could get and even shake to get the abortion they want or need. I can be possible. If they have got Mexico to do it, it could happen. I personally don't know the abortion laws in Mexico are but it would be worth the chance to do it.

 

They'll get their SSNs, if someone doesn't kill them first.

 

I do what I can, mostly through my church. But, I find is disturbing that you think being born in poverty means a life not worth living. Most children born during the entire history of mankind have been born in poverty yet many have gone on to become geniuses, heroes, great artists, great scientists, etc. People are a he** of a lot stronger and more adaptable than you give us all credit for.

 

One of the Mexican states that border Texas as just raised its legal abortion bar

 

Why didn't they protest in the first place. Most people I know would protest.

 

Your comment makes no sense. How many people murdered protested before they were killed?

 

There is research upon research showing that inability to control birth spacing not only ensures all members of the family remain in the poverty cycle but it also increases both maternal and infant mortality. So, while there have been children who have excelled who were born into poverty there have also been billions born whose life is breaking rocks by hand for less than 50 cents a week.There are those around the world who live on garbage dumps scrounging what they can. And there are those who die of malnutrition.

So yes I would rather women have control of birth spacing and my overwhelming preference would be for that to be achieved through LARCS as they are the most reliable.

Have a look at a world map one day - the countries with the strictest anti- abortion legislation are also those with the highest percentage of people living in grinding poverty

 

Abortionists agree: abortion is killing
https://www.liveaction.org/news/abortionists-agree-abortion-is-killing/


“I see more of murder the further along they get. Although inside me I know it’s murder from the beginning.”

“A fetus isn’t a baby.” “A woman has a right to choose.” These are often the most common statements a pro-lifer hears when discussing abortion with pro-choice people. “It isn’t a baby until it’s born.” “Abortion isn’t killing.” The rank-and-file of the pro-choice movement usually deny that an unborn baby is a human being with a right to life."

"Occasionally you will find someone who argues that the fetus is a baby, but the woman has a right to abort him or her anyway – but usually you’ll hear pro-choice people denying the humanity of the unborn. One word that’s always avoided is pro-choice publications is “baby.” “Fetus” or “product of conception” or “tissue” is how the aborted baby is described. It isn’t a life, they say."

"In one article in the American Medical News that was probably never meant for pro-life eyes, abortion providers from around the country discussed the emotional difficulties of performing abortions. One doctor said: "I have angry feelings at myself for feeling good about grasping the calvaria [head], for feeling good about doing a technically good procedure that destroys a fetus, kills a baby. (1)"


"If there is any doubt that at least some abortion providers know that abortion is killing a baby, it is put to rest by British abortionist Judith Arcana:

"It is morally and ethically wrong to do abortions without acknowledging what it means to do them. I performed abortions, I have had an abortion and I am in favor of women having abortions when we choose to do so. But we should never disregard the fact that being pregnant means there is a baby growing inside of a woman, a baby whose life is ended. We ought not to pretend this is not happening. (3)"​

 

I guess I have to assume you know which people need to be killed and which should be permitted to live. 'Permitted to live' is a decision you feel you're qualified to make?

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Spewing insults doesn't prove a thing except that you have no facts

Glad to help...

Now do what you can to get ZEFs their SSN.......and let me know when you do...

Sure, lots of ZEFs have SSNs.....surrrrre they do.....LOLOLOL/...you are grasping desperately

 

Bowerbird said: ↑
There is research upon research showing that inability to control birth spacing not only ensures all members of the family remain in the poverty cycle but it also increases both maternal and infant mortality. So, while there have been children who have excelled who were born into poverty there have also been billions born whose life is breaking rocks by hand for less than 50 cents a week.There are those around the world who live on garbage dumps scrounging what they can. And there are those who die of malnutrition.

So yes I would rather women have control of birth spacing and my overwhelming preference would be for that to be achieved through LARCS as they are the most reliable.

Have a look at a world map one day - the countries with the strictest anti- abortion legislation are also those with the highest percentage of people living in grinding poverty

Please DO explain what that has to do with the post you quoted?

I'll help : NOTHING..


She NEVER indicated """decision you feel you're qualified to make""

You , again, are grasping desperately...or is it desperately grasping

 

Ya, some people have OPINIONS...so what?

As long as their skewed opinions don't interfere with other's rights they are free to have them no matter how emotional and unscientific they are..

Here's one lie among many in your blurb of opinion:


"""but usually you’ll hear pro-choice people denying the humanity of the unborn.""


I have NEVER heard anyone deny a human fetus is human ...NEVER....and neither has the dope who said that...

 

I imagine quite a few....wouldn't you??


BTW, didn't you put me on ignore?

 

Ah! But I would rather prevent a pregnancy altogether and if that is not possible then do what is natural - terminate early. 10-15% of pregnancies end in miscarriage more if you are older



So ending a pregnancy is often Gods will and those miscarriage rates are post implantation. Considering only about 50% of fertilised eggs implant, well that too shows God is not that concerned about every potential human.

when you consider that an overcoming number of women seeking abortions already have at least one child and are living below the federal poverty line - it shows women often make the hard choice of choosing the children they already have

 

Covid has killed less than 1% of Americans so I suppose that’s not a big deal either. Maybe their health made them less viable.

 

Hmmm thought this had the typical skewed information that marks it as “prolife” about the author

https://www.liveaction.org/news/author/sarah-terzo/

And yes she is right in one thing - the support for abortion fades with advancing pregnancy. Up to 70% of people are OK with early terminations and the earlier the better. But this very fact is what so called “pro-lifers have used in a hideous disinformation campaign - an example of which is this very thread title.

They implant the concept that even a four day old foetus looks like a perfect Gerber baby and that it is all about late term terminations. Truth is less than 1% of abortions occur in the last trimester of pregnancy and the overwhelming majority of those are for foetal malformation incompatible with life. A late termination is a wanted, desired pregnancy that has gone horribly, heartbreakingly wrong.

 

These later terminations are because the parents do NOT want the child to suffer. But, for a minute, try to put yourself in the woman’s place. She is visibly pregnant and like all pregnant women has constant comments about “what are you hoping for” and “I bet you can’t wait for your new baby” but she has seen the scans - the baby has no brain and will only live a short time before dying the doctors have said that they cannot guarantee the baby will not be in pain. What will that do to her mental health? Some women ARE strong enough to go through with the pregnancy, some will suicide later in life as they never stop blaming themselves and some will chose an early termination

 

Plenty; especially those who had a brain and protested their innocence prior to being executed by the state. My comment makes no sense to you because you are not thinking things out. How many children alive today can honestly tell you that they remember floating in their mothers womb? I dare you to find one person alive who would testify that they do. And why do you think that is?

 

Yes, I did put you on ignore, and am likely to do it again. You seem incapable of civil discourse and I have very little patience for your rankings.

 

LOL, I have been quite civil with you .....you only decided I was uncivil when you couldn't answer my questions ....


My rankings are really quite good...

 

Bullshit Breitfart "news"

 

Yeah, I meant rantings. When working with my iPad rather than desktop the autocorrect feature hates me. I need to check three or four times to be sure it hasn’t sabotaged my comment.

Oh well.

 

Many have also gone on to become thieves, murderers, serial killers, and other types of criminals.

 

A fetus before current viability has no mind and is not a person. That's the crux of the issue. Not "choice." Not "life". 20 weeks isn't viable and can't have a mind. Most abortions after 20 weeks are for things like serious congenital defects. I never said I wanted late abortions anyway though, just the fact that they're 1% means they're not the main issue.

 

You want to kill babies because some may go on to be serial killers or other types of Criminals? Black babies grow up to become murders and other types of criminals at a disproportionately higher rate than babies from other racial groups. Do you want to target your killing of babies to those created by black mothers and fathers? Certainly, Margaret Sanger would approve, so you'll have that going for you if you do.