Democrats Challenge President Trump’s Military Authority, Following Soleimani’s Assassination

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  1. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    But not necessary. You simply made it up.

    You can review any of Trump's statements on "the Iran deal". Pull one up where he states that he opposed it because Obama came up with it. All that you will find is that he called it a bad deal.

    Without any documented evidence, there are only two possible explanations for your statement. Either you made it up, or you have magical mind-reading abilities.
     
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    Her remarks simply state the situation and she called for a briefing ASAP. Seems it was a "window of opportunity" to kill Soleimanis, who may have already been on some list. But, it raises a lot of questions, which now must be answered. Was Soleimanis entering Iraq legally? Did the Iraqis authorities have prior knowledge and give approval? Etc., etc.
     
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    Occam’s razor tells us that the simplest answer is likely the most correct. Given Trump’s well documented opposition to Obama and a lack of a well reasoned argument for why the JCPOA was a bad deal, we are left with a simple answer. Trump opposed the JCPOA because it was Obama’s deal, and he was/is opposed to anything to do with Obama.
    I made nothing up.
     
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    You reference Obama a whole lot when defending Trump.
    Sure, Obama didn’t deserved the Nobel Prize, and he abused the drone program. I agree.
    Trump’s actions are still dangerous and likely to lead to war, in violation of his campaign promises.
     
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    Thats a lazy corruption of Occam's razor.
     
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    Call it what you want. I’m right.
     
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    My premise is that you don't understand Occam's razor. It's not that the simplest answer is likely the most correct.
     
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    Well, I agree. That answer is certainly "simple".
     
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    while certainly a simplification, I don’t know that my definition was overly incorrect.

    Oc·cam's ra·zor
    /ˌäkəmz ˈrāzər/
    noun
    1. the principle (attributed to William of Occam) that in explaining a thing no more assumptions should be made than are necessary. The principle is often invoked to defend reductionism or nominalism.

     
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    Then by all means. Explain the complexities of why Trump pulled us out of the JCPOA.
     
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    Democrats need to explain their double standards.

    Obama launches 2,800 strikes on Iraq, Syria without congressional approval

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/apr/27/congress-still-not-specifically-authorizing-islami/
     
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    During the Cuban missile crisis, JFK almost provoked a nuclear war, at least that's what liberals today would say. He blockaded Cuba which is an act of war (and is what the Squad wants to do to Israel) He tried to assassinate Castro because he was a threat. History says that, if JFK pulled an Obama and did nothing and allowed the threat to continue, he would have been impeached.

    If Trump has intel about terrorist acts being committed against Americans, it is his duty to act. Not doing so is an impeachable offense, and we all know that if Americans were killed and Trump did nothing to prevent it, Schiff 2.0 would convene 5 minutes later.

    The first and foremost job of the American government is to protect American citizens. And liberals are complaining about that. Go figure.
     
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    It was a bad deal, sounds simpler.
     
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    I did.

    He said it was a bad deal.

    I'm really only interested in finding out why you made crap up.
     
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    Lol...Such nonsense.
    They condemn trump’s dereliction of his constitutional duties, yet again, in ordering an assassination that is nothing more than a blatant attempt to wag the dog to distract from his impeachment.
     
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    What impeachment? Perhaps you mean "un-peachment"......Trump raised over 40 million while the dems in congress were putting on their clown show. Why would he want to distract from that?
     
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    The Democrats can only survive by transferring the wealth of few into the hands of the many,—intellectually, they have dead stale ideas that passed away with Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and Castro.
     
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    It offers no logical reasoning for his actions. Actions that have set us down a path to war as evidenced by the past year. For what he’s gotten us into I think the American people should demand more than just “It was a bad deal.”
    What made it a bad deal?
     
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    I made nothing up. Prove that Trump had a well thought out, well reasoned, and articulable opposition to the JCPOA. If you can do that then clearly he had reason to oppose the deal outside of its relation to Obama. I suspect that you can’t, because he didn’t.
     
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    My guess is he knows it’s more damaging to him than you seem to think it is.
     
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    Not a damn word you just spoke was relevant to the topic at hand. You’re like a wind up toy.
     
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    You're the one who made the laughably false claim. Stop deflecting. Just prove your claim.
     
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    I already have. Prove I’m wrong.
     

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