Democrats have now declared political civil war

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  1. Bearack

    Bearack Well-Known Member

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    How is calling Joe and Hunter bogging down the process and or immaterial? They are the reason for the discussion with the Ukrainian president as they were part of the initial corruption investigation.

    They would be the primary witnesses in an investigation and the Dem's want nothing to do with know the facts. They merely need to manufacture their own facts.
     
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  2. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Okay, that's one person; can you show me about 90 million more who've publicly posted their viewpoint similar to the above?
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And that ladies and gentlemen is where both you and I will have to agree to disagree. I'm sure we'll know in 2 to 3 months if you are right or wrong.
     
  4. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He's running the Trump 2020 campaign.

    Sounds like he's right.
     
  5. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's what I figured.
     
  6. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I would expect nothing less from you; so far that's one person. You got a long way to go.
     
  7. Sandy Shanks

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    You said, "Total political war has been joined. On the floor of the United Sates House of Representatives on Thursday, the battle lines were drawn — and they could not be more clear or decisive."

    Every member should support allowing the American people to hear the facts for themselves."

    Tell me something. As a Trump supporter, why do you have a problem with keeping the American people informed?

    That is the entire purpose of the resolution passed Thursday. The evidence, the witnesses, the depositions will all become public. That is what you are afraid of.

    Now ask yourself a question. "Why am I supporting a man who is at the center of all this?"

    Do you really think he is innocent? If so, that is because you didn't read the transcript and you have not been following the evidence. Ignorance is no excuse.
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When democrats lose the Presidency and house next November-never ask why-because you already know.
     
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    Well, Google has a lot of secrets with it's Al Gore ithms that manipulate results, but, help is on the way!

    GOOD: Legislation Would Force Google and Rivals to Disclose Search Algorithms: Senate bill aims to give users of search engines more control over personal data.

    Senate lawmakers proposed bipartisan legislation that would require search engines to disclose the algorithms they use in ranking internet searches and give consumers an option for unfiltered searches.​

    Search engines such as Alphabet Inc. ’s Google unit use a variety of measures to filter results for individual searches, such as the user’s browsing activity, search history and geographical location.​

    Critics have increasingly complained about algorithms enabling online-search and social-media companies to determine the content users see, with some on the right claiming the result is a form of censorship because certain views may be excluded. The big internet firms generally have denied such claims and contend that using profile information gives users better-tailored results.​

    The proposed Filter Bubble Transparency Act would require big online search engines and platforms to disclose that they are using algorithms to sort the information that users are requesting or are being encouraged to view.​

    The bill would also require the online search engines or platforms to offer a relatively unfiltered version of the same information if users ask for it.​

    The bill was filed by Sen. John Thune (R., S.D.) and is being co-sponsored by a bipartisan group of lawmakers.

    So, I might search phrase you suggest and get swamped in Leftwing trash, but this transparency legislation will also allow me to request an un-manipulated search.
     
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    It doesn't matter which country it is Jews will be accused of disloyalty regardless
     
  11. Lesh

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    So we're having a "political civil war" because Trump is being Impeached

    Did we have a political civil war because Republicans tried to railroad Clinton 20 years ago?
     
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    Questions mostly from Trump and Trump Republicans trying desperately to defend him, have been asked why closed door hearings in the impeachment inquiry.

    The answer is, to determine if there are grounds for impeachment much like a grand jury. And, like a grand jury, it is done in secret. The actual determination if there is impeachment comes later.

    Up until 1999 this chore was handled by the independent prosecutor. Archibald Cox and later, Leon Jaworski, in the Nixon impeachment. Ken Starr handled the duty in the Clinton impeachment. His investigation took five years. The investigations by Cox and Jaworski took 14 months.

    Since the expiration of the independent counsel statute in 1999, there has been no federal statutory law governing the appointment of a special counsel. Upon the law's expiration in 1999, the Justice Department promulgated procedural regulations governing the appointment of special counsels like Robert Mueller.

    That is what happened in Trump's case, except Mueller's report did not lead to an impeachment inquiry. Trump's request for foreign intervention in our election and his extortion of Ukraine did that. There was no independent prosecutor. His duties became the responsibility of the House, mostly Adam Schiff's Intelligence Committee.

    Oct. 9, 2019, for the fourth time ever in American history, the House of Representatives has launched an impeachment inquiry into a sitting president. https://www.vox.com/2019/9/25/20882860/house-democrats-impeachment-inquiry-donald-trump-nancy-pelosi

    So, in other words, the grand jury portion of the inquiry to determine if there are grounds for impeachment took 20 days, not five years 14 months.

    You won't hear that from Trump, the White House, or the likes of Grisham, Jordan, Scalise or Meadows.

    In other words, Trump fans, you are being lied to again.

    The public testimony will begin in a week or two. Americans will be fully informed. That is really what scares the pants off Trump, the White House, or the likes of Grisham, Jordan, Scalise or Meadows.
     
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    Never mind that, she said that we should hear the truth. Words are much more important than actions.
     
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    Grand juries are presided over by impartial honest judges, not lying partisan scum like Schitt,

    Grand juries are impaneled by non-partisan objective prosecutors, not shameless lying scum like Schitt

    Grand juries are manned by fair, unbiased, reasonable citizens, not lying, deranged scum like Schitt.

    Your comparison of Schitt's lying circus to the grand jury process is a huge FAIL.

    If on the other hand you bothered to compare Schitt's witchhunt to Beria's NKVD, you would not find many differences.
     
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    Simply not true, schifty has been conducting this entire impeachment on the sneak, and hiding the whistleblower because he knows his credibility will be shattered, thats why he is keeping him from testifying. The democrats cant allow him to be questioned by republicans.

    The democrats know they got nothing, they know trump will remain in office this is to feed the silly less than brilliant base and to attempt to hurt trumps re election
     
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    lpast Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    First of all they werent my statements, they were statements made in the article, and I do not have a problem with the american people being informed, the Democrats do thats why they are conducting secret meetings and hiding the whistleblower.
     
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    So your guaranteeing that one of the numbnutz democrats vying for the nomination will beat trump ? :) ok
     
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    Americans Care
     
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    You can read the rest at the link, Schiff has 2 of his staffer who worked with ciaramella, its all going to come out

    Sounds A Bit Coup Coup: Trump-Ukraine Whistleblower Hid Contacts With Schiff From Inspector General


    Federal documents reveal that the 33-year-old Ciaramella, a registered Democrat held over from the Obama White House, previously worked with former Vice President Joe Biden and former CIA Director John Brennan, a vocal critic of Trump who helped initiate the Russia “collusion” investigation of the Trump campaign during the 2016 election.

    Further, Ciaramella (pronounced char-a-MEL-ah) left his National Security Council posting in the White House’s West Wing in mid-2017 amid concerns about negative leaks to the media. He has since returned to CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia.


    Also, Ciaramella huddled for “guidance” with the staff of House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, including former colleagues also held over from the Obama era whom Schiff’s office had recently recruited from the NSC. (Schiff is the lead prosecutor in the impeachment inquiry.)

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattv...lower-hid-contacts-with-schiff-from-n2555655/
     
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    The impeachment inquiry has nothing to do with them personally.
    They would just be called and harassed by republicans on the panel.
     
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    And if they should win, then what will you say??
     
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    They won't win-even if just by mobilization.

    Desperate dems will attempt to cheat though-at this point what else do they have?
     
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    Afraid to answer the question? Desperate republicans will actually jettison the US constitution to ensure their leader is re-elected.
     
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    Go for it. Fact of the matter is, study after study has shown that highly conservative people process new information in the emotion part of their brain, especially in the fear center. It is something that is seen in practice, as well as in brain scan experiments. It is why people like me are never swayed by conservative arguments, I process incoming information in a different part of my brain.
     
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    Donald Trump used hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars in an effort to force the Ukraine government to help him in his reelection bid. Two of Trump's operatives were arrested for funneling Russian money into Trump's campaign.
     
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