Democrats, stand by your president. Do not be fooled by Republicans

Umm, who just officially ended the war in Afghanistan?

BTW - A horrible deflection on your part. But I understand.

 

You are correct. Trump should have included the Afghan country in that deal.

Regardless Biden is now the president and could have made a new deal or done this differently.

Both made mistakes but Biden will be the one blamed because he was the man in charge.

 

BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

In the 13 years I've been posting here I've read some serious howlers, but that one takes the cake.

Biden has been a failure in every respect. At 7 months he set the land speed record to lame duck status.

 

I'm glad we are out but Biden really messed up on the withdrawal.

The polls of recent also reflect this. He may gain back some popularity but right now he is very unpopular and for good reason.

 

You are the one who is deflecting. Biden is president. Trump had nothing to do with this fiasco. If Trump did something wrong, Biden had ample time to fix it. But, instead Biden pulled the troops out with no plan.

 

I generally view people who take themselves and others too seriously as trying to compensate for something. You see a guy in a suit and think he is smart and sophisticated. I see a guy in a suit and wonder, "who is he trying to impress?" in this case, the suit is just grammar and spelling

 

He actually did do it. Others had promised to but folded to the military industrial complex. So big credit for that. And also blame for handling it so poorly.

And from a practical political standpoint, so long as Trump is the presumptive nominee for the Republicans, I don’t think many Democrats will waver in their support for Biden. But this is a definite opportunity for other Republicans to step forward and launch early campaigns I think. Really really early campaigns lol

 

Two weeks ago, it was estimated that there were as many as 15,000 Americans in Afghanistan. They evacuated around 6000. That leaves 9000. How did that number get down to around 200?

 

Biden will never be able to scrub the stench of failure off himself after the Afghanistan debacle. His incompetence has rekt his and Harris' chances of getting elected in 2024.

The only question in my mind is how much damage that imbecile has caused down-ticket. If the gubernatorial race here in Virginia is any indication, 2022 is going to be a real bad year for Dims.

 

Assuming of course you don't mind thousands dead, more than a few of them Americans, terrorism spreading wider, China and Russia and their minor allies emboldened, allies dispirited if not completely annoyed. Understand the war against Islamic fundamentalist nut bars is not over. It has only changed locations.

 

It was never going to be completely painless, however, it did not have to be a monumental disaster of bro dinagian proportions.

 

Trump already gave them the 5000 Taliban fighters, Biden could not undo that

I agree with your other two statements

Biden will get more blame and more credit for ending the war as he was President hen it happened

Trump is already whining he is not getting enough credit as it was his deal

 

There is no nice way to end a lost war. If you disagree, consider what it was like for those who signed the unconditional surrenders for Germany and Japan. The only way to explain the Taliban victory is to acknowledge that they had the support of the vast majority of the Afghan people. They could not have survived for twenty years against the best equipped military in the world otherwise.

 

Well I agree with you.

 

You get the civilians out before you take the soldiers out. If Biden had got the evacuation going first, our troops could have manned the roads leading into the airport and that tragedy if 13 Marines killed wouldn't have happened. Bringing thousands back was of little help. They stayed in or just outside the airport. They didn't take control of the check points of the roads leading into the airport. Biden didn't want to start a confrontation with the Taliban by trying.

Biden screwed that up and screwed up our southern border. They want everyone wearing masks but are letting thousands in that have the virus.

 

Trump also, Trump should have got the civilians out after he signed the deal, before bringing home 13,000 soldiers and only leaving 2500

I also agree, Biden should have sent soldiers back in on day one, that was one of Biden's biggest mistakes, Trump was setting Biden up for failure and Biden let him

then again, this withdrawal went pretty well, so history will forget about either of their mistakes

the Taliban just wanted us out, so they could concentrate on ISIS-K

 

No, it's not that he should have sent the soldiers back, he shouldn't have taken them out till all the civilians left. They should have stayed there and guarded the roads leading into the airport. We may have had 13 Marines still alive if he had.

 

that is the same thing I was saying

I said "Trump should have got the civilians out after he signed the deal, before bringing home 13,000 soldiers and only leaving 2500"

 

Only one trouble the war isn't over. It will not be over until we either surrender to radical Islam or destroy it root and branch. They not we will have it no other way.

 

Trump signed the deal on Feb. 29, a year and a half ago. But you don't think Biden should have gotten people out just a few months before?

 

I think 1.5 years is plenty of notice for people to leave on their own

and to be fair, I am sure both Trump and Biden thought that as well

also no one anticipated the Taliban moving in so fast, and the Afghan army just turning tail and running without a fight

 

He actually did do it so BADLY that it deserves no credit at all...Biden folded to the Taliban... surrendered seems more fitting... it will mean nothing until people start getting their heads chopped off or our own Americans being killed with our own American weapons by the Taliban prisoners' he enabled to be released back on to the world stage... who knows , Biden may have given a few of these Taliban terrorists a free ride right into the middle of the US

 

Biden had 7 months to do it.... why didn't he?

We have no guarantee Biden didn't unknowingly load some of terrorist he released from the prisons at Bagram in with the refugees and flew them smack dab in the middle of the US.

 

same reason Trump did not in 9 months

both thought people would leave on their own, they knew this was coming for over a year, they saw that the military was pulling out.... yet they stayed

 

Trump is not president, Biden is... the buck stops with him...