Democrats will fill balcony with 'Dreamers' for State of the Union

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  1. Russ103

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    I would sit her next to Bill Clinton, that would be fun huh?
     
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    Every single one of them would cut the feed.
     
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    Anything is possible..... and it would limit his lies to the 5 you listed, which is certainly better than he is going to do with his regular speech... All in all, I'm for this idea...
     
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    Things aren't lies just because you don't like them.
     
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    Between him and Hillary.....hell yeah. Michelle and Obama behind them and Stormy in a MAGA hat....only a MAGA hat.
     
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    At least threaten to read, watch the Dems sweat.
     
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    I don't think Ovomit will be there, he's out of the country hiding in a embassy somewhere.
     
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    So you only consider it your country when we do something you would have personally endorsed. Some patriot you are..
     
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    I think you have to choose your words carefully

    “We” as in myself did not welcome rhe DACAs to America

    I wanted the parents and their children deported 20 years ago

    So while I am leagally oblidged to obey the law I am not morally obliged to give the DACAs amnesty

    I owe them nothing
     
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    It's a bitter war to take the moral high ground on this one.
     
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    You don't take ownership of the things your country does if you don't agree with them. That makes you a fair weather patriot. You don't care at all that the United States is responsible for bringing these people into the country because its not something you would have allowed had it been up to you. So you think its perfectly fine to just dump them on their ass despite the fact that we are the reason they are here in the first place.

    I think you need to choose your morals more carefully. You don't see these people as human.
     
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    It was a mistake to leave the DACAs in the US when they were children

    And we have every moral right to kick them out now
     
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    The United States did not do this Obama did through an EO which he himself said he did not have the authority to do.. One person is responsible for this mess. 7+ Billion people on the planet unless you want them all here you dont think they are humans!!! Your logic.
     
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    We made a mistake, but its morally right to punish the object of our mistake. That makes no sense. When you make a mistake, you own that mistake and accept the consequences. What you are proposing is avoiding that responsibility by eliminating the wronged party.
     
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    Obama was the president. His actions are on behalf of our country. This is what I mean about fair weather patriots. You guys don't even consider America to be your country when offices aren't held by people you would vote for.
     
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    It was morally wrong to allow them to be here in the first place

    But that was your mistake not mine
     
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    What Consequences is Obama facing?
     
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    Says the Trump is Hitler crowd.
     
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    Can you agree to deport the adults who brought here?
     
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    LOL. That's rich coming from the Trump-hating left-wing crowd.
     
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    Presidents are not Kings there is no royal We.
     
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    This country is a success because of Trump ? Seriously ?
     
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    Obama bypassed the US. Constitution

    So he did not have the consent of the American people to grant DACA
     
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    I will vehemently disagree with almost everything Trump does, but I wont pretend that its anything less than my country doing it and that the United States as a whole elected this man and is therefore responsible for any actions he takes as our President. And since I am part of this country >I< am in part responsible for his actions. I participated in the process that brought him into power. I am an American, and I share responsibility for President Trump even though I did not vote for him. Thats at the heart of being a real patriot. Owning what your country does even when you don't support it.
     
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    So EO's are unconstitutional ?
     
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