Derek Chauvin Murder Trial is on

If you die from an overdose you stop breathing and become 'compliant'. How different would the end of that situation look?

 

Let's see, you let a murderer run away and risk he murders again in the next few days as compared to letting Floyd run away at the risk that he might pass on another fake $20 bill in the next few days. You really think that is a valid comparison?

 

you don't know of Floyd's criminal record?

 

Lol what exactly do you think he would go on and do if he managed to escape for a day? His last arrest was in 2009. It's laughable that you think he would represent the same risk as an actual murderer

 

As a matter of fact, yes.
In the Floyd case the right knee is also in the middle of his back while the left is on his neck.
And of course there is the little thing of the second cop also putting his weight on his back.

 

have you done the technique? How do you know how much weight is where? The home invasion enthusiast was having heart failure due to bad health and narcotics, this is apologetics for his criminal behavior.

 

No, not at all. Someone said that "the world would not have ended" if they let Floyd go. So I said that by that standard, murderers could be let go.

 

How do you know that he had a heart failure?

 

I don't need to do the "technique." There are papers written on it and police procedures warning about it.

 

Yeah, reading about something and doing it are very, very different things.

 

And doing something somehow makes it safe? I don't think so.

 

The APA is full of it, they ignore the disproportionate violent criminality of African Americans. This vid shows that this is a recommended technique and can be applied perfectly safely. The defence expert easily countered the testimony of the prosecution, you don't like it when your assumptions are questioned. My opinion is the same as everyone else's.

To see that justice is done? Yes, you can tell from my posts I am extremely authoritative. You don't blame the MPD for seeking a scapegoat? What sort of attitude is that? Floyd succeeded in sucking the life out of himself with his drug abuse. Not inventing anything, just drawing my own conclusions from the facts which I have studied in great detail, you should try it. The civil suit is entirely separate and has no bearing on the criminal trial, surely you appreciate that? The families behaviour in the other civil case is just abhorrent hypocrisy.

 

That is always the objective, to seek justice.

The subject of this thread is about the Chauvin murder trial, it's not about you or your frame of mind.

There is no indication that the MPD is seeking a scapegoat, you're making crap up as usual. In the US there is something called the "blue wall of silence", police usually defending and protecting their own. So police rarely if ever indict their own as they have done with Chauvin.

A drug abuser generally succeeds in shortening his/her lifespan. In this case Floyd did not suck the life out of himself, Chauvin did that.

You invent a great deal, your posts confirm it. Someone who invents his own facts should not be advising anyone to study the facts, check the mirror.

I never said otherwise. I was merely responding to your phony claims about the civil suit.

That's exactly what I mean. Someone who believes that justice should be done should not be making nonsensical claims, especially about a civil suit you have no clue about.

 

If the engine of the police car was running, That might have had something to do with but the choking by knee still had something to do with it as well.

Evidence unknown.

 

The engine running or not running was irrelevant, that was proven by the autopsy evidence. Chauvin's knees were the substantial causal factor in Floyd's death and therefore had everything to do with the murder. That satisfies the primary component of the murder charges. Everything else is either strictly contributory or irrelevant.

But at the very least, Chauvin failed to provide any medical assistance and even refused it, until the EMT asked him to get off Floyd, about 3.5 minutes after Floyd passed out (i.e. offered zero resistance) and 3 minutes after Chauvin was aware that Floyd had no pulse. That alone violates training protocol that was part of Chauvin's annual training. And it also makes it a substantial contributory factor in Floyd's death.

 

If both sides rest and that's it. When will the verdict be reached?

 

The knee to the neck probably was what did it. Case Closed?

 

It was positional asphyxia caused by Chauvin's actions (subdual restraint) according to the medical testimony.

For me the case was closed long ago. But no, closing arguments are scheduled for Monday. Then the jury deliberates and hopefully awards a verdict this week. And even then the case will likely not be closed if Chauvin is found guilty or if there's a hung jury. In the former the defense will likely appeal. In the latter the prosecution will have to decide if they want to retry.

 

No, it would have to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, probably isn't good enough,

 

Yes, I seek justice for Derek Chauvin, you questioned my frame of mind, I assured you that you were incorrect. Of course the MPD are seeking a scapegoat, they're throwing Chauvin under a bus to avoid rioting. Floyd killed himself through his drug abuse. I don't invent anything, the facts speak for themselves. I did check the mirror and may i say I'm looking damn handsome today. The civil suit by the family is simply an intimidation tactic, the legal equivalent of those who poured pigs blood on the house of the expert witness who supported Chauvin.

 

MPD has no say in it. He is being judged by a jury of his peers. That's how things work in this country. Floyd died in his custody, and Chauvin is facing the consequences of his actions.

 

You can assure me of anything you like, your posts speak for your frame of mind. You're seeking justice for Derek Chauvin as you stated, I seek justice period.

You're stating your own invented set of facts, it's the actual facts (i.e. reality) that speak for themselves and they are the evidence and supported by eyewitnesses and experts. Your "facts" have no basis in reality.

You keep showing that know nothing about the civil suit and as usual you're inventing your own facts about that too. The paid expert witnesses testifying for the defense were thoroughly and overwhelmingly contradicted by the evidence and the expert witnesses testifying for the prosecution.

 

The verdict will decide Chauvin's fate and that will be the bottom line. What happens from there will determine what results that come out of it.

 

Defense attorney's closing arguments tactic? Use the term "a reasonable police officer" in every single sentence, sometimes 2 or 3 times in the same sentence.

 

Hope for the best and expect the worst in this Derek Chauvin trial. It can go either way.