Despite what the NRA tells you, literally no one is trying to end legal gun ownership

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  1. qwest

    qwest Member

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    The NRA and right-wing media invented the "liberals want to take your guns" lie as a tool to fight against event he most basic, commonsense gun reform. Universal background checks are just a tool to bolster EXISTING LAWS, making sure that people who aren't allowed by law to buy a gun can't skirt around background check laws. An assault weapons ban would only prevent the sale of such weapons after the law took effect. Nobody is going to kick down anyone's door to take their previously-purchased AR-15s. As for the tired, "Without my AR-15 I wouldn't be able to defend my home or hunt", explain how people were able to do those things for the ten years during with assault weapons were previously banned from 1994-2004. Did nobody hunt during those years? Was nobody able to defend their home from intruders? Literally not one Democrat is seriously suggesting that all guns be banned. If you really feel you are right on this issue, you should't need to lie. (And no, conspiracy theories about SECRET plans to "take mah guns!!!" don't count.)
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh look, someone who thinks we don't read or watch the news.
     
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    UBC is unenforceable w/o universal registration, which will be the next thing the anti-gun left pushes for.
    No one wonders why the anti-gun left wants universal registration.
    And thus, have no effect on crime at any level because of the tens of million of such weapons already in private hands.
    A picture is worth a thousand million words.

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    Feel free to try again.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I just want to know who the ******* was that put those on fire before they took the picture.

    Irritates the crap out of me.
     
  5. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    True. It is certainly about creating a fake narrative to herd away from rational debate. The US has always had gun control. It just never has had rational gun control. Its fortunately eliminated the racist gun control mind you. That's a bonus!
     
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    Of course there are a few who do want take my guns.

    Here's a U.S. Congressman from Illinois (emphasis added):
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/01/dem-rep-ok-with-only-rich-people-having-guns/

    And of course they want to get rid of the 2nd amendment:
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/04/02/dnc-official-second-amendment/
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/27/opinion/john-paul-stevens-repeal-second-amendment.html


    These guys want to ban all guns.
    http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opin...ol-ban-homicides-suicides-20140528-story.html
    https://www.metrotimes.com/detroit/ban-all-guns-now/Content?oid=2147131
     
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  7. Reality

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    They've openly come out for repealing the 2nd amendment now and banning all semi automatic firearms.

    Your argument is wildly incorrect and therefore invalid.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    At least he's honest about wanting to make money off murder.
     
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    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    The false narrative has produced the zombie outlook and now they're all eating (their own) brains...
     
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    Your progressive marxist newsletter, The Daily Kos, seems to disagree with your premise. This article lays out pretty well what the strategy is.

    "I know this seems harsh, but this is the only way we can be truly safe. I don't want my kids being shot at by a deranged NRA member. I'm sure you don't either. So lets stop looking for short term solutions and start looking long term. Registration is the first step. Tell [...] democrats in congress to demand mandatory, comprehensive gun registration. It's the only way we can ban guns with any effectiveness."

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...-to-Ban-Guns-A-step-by-step-long-term-process
     
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    LOL! Just ignore Justice Stevens? Right? ;-)
     
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    Not as much as the photo of Senator Feinstein sweeping a crowd with an AK she's just loaded a round into the chamber on. With her ******ned booger hook on the bangswitch too
     
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    Good to see Marxism called progressive. Well done!
     
  14. Reality

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    Funny thing is he's now admitting the 2a covers an individual right to keep and bear arms in contravention to the opinion he signed on to in Heller :)
     
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    Its not a compliment.
     
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    Not a single AR-15 was confiscated, and fully functional new ones were available for sale and the grandfathered ones (and their magazines) were also available sale.
     
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    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    You might want to improve on your understanding of the English language. Also add Sarcasm 101 to your evening class list
     
  18. Reality

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    See above dear.
     
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    Reality has unhinged the old Left.
     
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    Except UBCs do nothing in regards to straw purchases, FFL diversions, illegal street sales and theft.
     
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    Sweetpea, the false narrative is clear. Take the Limeys. All my mates have guns, but bet you think otherwise. Creating fodder through narrative is so easy
     
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    "
    progressive
    /prəˈɡrɛsɪv/
    adjective
    1.
    of or relating to progress
    2.
    proceeding or progressing by steps or degrees
    3.
    (often capital) favouring or promoting political or social reformthrough government action, or even revolution, to improve the lot ofthe majority: a progressive policy"
    See 2. When we say Marxism is progressive we mean progressive like cancer is progressive.
     
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    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    Let's not play pretend munchkin! You fellows are feckin clueless on Marxism. That's fitting! Its a bit like how you're clueless over your gun control history...
     
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    Ah but can you use them in defense? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/04/suspected-burglar-dies-tussle-pensioner-78/

    This guy couldn't use a kitchen knife ffs. Hard pass lobster. Keep your crappy laws to yourself on your shitty little ,rain-drowned, island.
     
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    Ooo, neat reference to right wing xenophobia sweetheart! That's a key part I reckon for the 'false narrative' to work. You need people easy to manipulate...
     

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