DEVASTATING ARGUMENT presented by Rep. RASKIN, et al, on DAY 2 of SENATE IMPEACHMENT

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  1. Arkanis

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    Putin never asked for Navalny to be poisoned.

    He only told his men "I wish he wasn't here anymore" ....

    So Putin never wanted to kill anyone.
     
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    Nothing you or anyone at the trial says will change the fact Trump never incited a riot that started before his speech was even over.
     
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    I’m not sure that’s even close but I appreciate your effort. I’m a big fan of analogies and emperor palpatine
     
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    So just because Bobby and Billy didn't kill anyone, Joe and Pete aren't guilty,. Typical trumper logic.

    Here is the proof that he wanted the riot: He didn't call it off until it had failed. In fact he was egging them on about Pence at about the same time Pence was being rushed to safety.

    And when he did call it off, they left. But that was over 2 hours after the attack started. Why wasn't he tweeting up a storm trying to stop them? He was too busy cheering them on in front of witnesses at the WH.
     
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    I hope these witnesses testify, because that's the only thing that'll change my opinion on this debacle.
     
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    It is useless even trying to talk to trumpers. I only argue for anyone who is riding the line and reading. But more than that, I want them to know that they will never live this down. They are marked for life. And we will never forget what they did.

    It's like discovering that if you leave your gun lying around, your friend will try to pick it up and shoot you. Then when you wrestle the gun away, he asks if we can just move on now and be friends again. Yeah, that ship has sailed. Trumpers waged war on the rest of the country and we can never forget just how dangerous and vicious they have proven to be.
     
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    Not everyone who voted for Trump(or even most people who voted for Trump) were at the site of the Capitol during the riots and over 85% of Americans disavow what happened at the Capitol.
     
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    It was 3 months of incitement with the invitation for everyone to gather 1/6 in DC

    However, I know you need to keep up your Trump delusions, so keep on focusing on just what he said on 1/6. It is cute how Trump was cheering on the insurrection though - such a patriot
     
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    If that is what you truly believe, then you have NOT been paying attention!
     
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    So your evidence is... that? Thats your evidence?

    I feel like your opinion doesn't hold up in court.

    Why isn't Biden standing in front of the federal building in Portland right now, begging them to stop?

    Is he a terrible person?
     
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    Wrong, if fact I’ve paid far more attention to the issue than your ilk; You see Trump and all rational thought and logical pathways in your head just shut down. You believe every “person familiar with . . .” as long as he “knows” something detrimental to Trump.
    We’ve just spent four years with our media outlets joining the LW ministry of propaganda. Journalism is dead; long live propaganda.
     
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    Thanks.

    Can you explain why hundreds of Capitol protesters claimed to be there because they were sent by Trump?

    The thousands of rioters must have misunderstood Trump's message.

    The election was not stolen and Pence could do nothing about it after all....
     
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    There are lots of crazy people in this world.
     
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    YES, and Trump USED them....


    BTW, Trump said he be at the Capitol WITH them....didn't they ever ask, "Where's the Donald?"
     
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    You answered your own question, because tens of millions did not.
     
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    Liberal bias is strong! Not right, but strong nonetheless; especially so when Trump hatred with them is also strong!
     
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    I suppose it's time to Impeach Bernie Sanders for the Softball Field "Insurrection".

    People have to be pretty big dopes to nor realize this Trial is designed for the "Useful Idiots". This is some real Soviet style propaganda. The Left has went off the rails.
     
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    Do you acknowledge that the rioters came FROM the Trump rally? And that they began their trek to the Capitol when Trump said, in his ongoing speech, that they were going to march to the Capitol, and that he would be with them?

    You must acknowledge, as well, that their reason for being in the Capitol that day was specifically because of TRUMP'S INVITATION, actually his exhorting people to show up..."It's gonna be wild!" And the time of the Trump speech/rally, coinciding with the official counting of electoral votes, was also no one's choice other than Trump, himself. But you see no cause-&-effect relationship? One can only hope that you aren't a detective.
     
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    That is a real cop-out, "argument," IMO, that any point you can't argue on facts, law, other evidence, or even reason, you just attribute to, "liberal bias."

    I can show numerous posts of mine to show that I'm NOT a party-line guy, or even a Democrat, for that matter. I'd guess that my posts would offer more to support the finding that I do judge every issue on its own merits, than would your own be able to make that argument of, "no partisan bias," for you.

    But I guess Everyone has, & is entitled to, an opinion. Yours, however, is clearly not a compelling one, if that's all you can say -- liberal bias!-- to justify it.
     
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    Translation. Liberals are going to milk this once-in-a-lifetime white riot for all it is worth.

    There is a big plus from this. As long as the left focuses on Trump, you people are somewhat distracted from destroying the Constitution. With any luck, we can get to the midterms before the left can pack (destroy) the Supreme Court and destroy the Constitution.

    Interesting that you should use the "wrestle the gun away" metaphor. Been fantasizing about gun confiscation?
     
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    Let's wait to see the final vote. If he is acquitted, then my opinion is all that matters and the only one that is correct. If he is found guilty, then I suppose my opinion is incorrect!

    Opinion will be fact or wrong!
     
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    It must be embarrassing.
     
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    How do you account for the lie Trump told the crowd regarding Pence?
     
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    I don't have to account for it. Trump, like all Americans has this right of Free Speech. I know you Leftists are dead set on shutting that down, but we are not going along with the authoritarian parade you Democrats are marching in.
     
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