Did Hawaii DoH Steal Dead Baby's Birth Reg. Number To Cover For Obama

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  1. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let's not forget Bobo's grammy; she's on it too.

    Obama's the most questioned president in the modern history, providing the least answers to the questions asked. Why is he the most questioned? Because he provides the least of answers :mrgreen:
     
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    In 1961 a new mother stayed in hospital 4 or 5 days and the paperwork generally wasn't filled out until the last day of her hospital stay.
     
  3. SFJEFF

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    Obama is the most questioned president in modern history.
    Obama is the darkest skinned president in modern history.

    Simple corelation and much easier to prove than any of your claims.
     
  4. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You said it, not me. And it is you JEFF who continuously saying it, not me. Therefore, it is you who's racist, not me :mrgreen:
     
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    What typical Birther speak.

    You claim I am racist even though I am not the one challenging the President simply because his father was African.

    I will just point out again that as far as Birthers go, they believe that this one President should be held to a different standard than any other President. Because of "questions being asked"- and why are the questions asked? Because he doesn't look like the other Presidents.

    Me? I have always said that Obama should be treated like everyone else- not the Birthers seperate but equal treatment.
     
  6. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do not do a "typical birther speak", for I am not a typical birther - show me just one post of mine where I question Obama's birth in Hawaii, and you can call me birther - otherwise, how can you? I question everything else including validity of shyster's documents, but not his place of birth. See that? Birthers question birth... I do not question his place of birth, so how am I a birther? This is very typical of Obamabots - you question Obama, and you're immediately labeled birther. I again point out, Axelrod done one hell of a job coining the term, did not he? :mrgreen:
     
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    Excuse me for forgetting which of the Birther orthodoxies you don't embrace. Birther is an inclusive term for all of those who believe, contrary to the evidence, that President Obama is not legally our President because he was not eligible when he was elected, for one or more of many varied and sometimes contradictory theories. Saying you are not a Birther because you don't believe one of them would be like claiming you are not a Christian because you are a Baptist.

    I dont' go around calling every Obama hater a Birther- seriously otherwise I would be calling half of the posters on this board Birthers if I was responding to everyone who 'question' Obama. No, I call you a Birther because you talk like a Birther, quack like a Birther and post like a Birther.

    So to repeat-

    What typical Birther speak.

    You claim I am racist even though I am not the one challenging the President simply because his father was African.

    I will just point out again that as far as Birthers go, they believe that this one President should be held to a different standard than any other President. Because of "questions being asked"- and why are the questions asked? Because he doesn't look like the other Presidents.

    Me? I have always said that Obama should be treated like everyone else- not the Birthers seperate but equal treatment.
     
  9. Dutch

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    I've looked up the subject on the i-net and it appears, hundreds of people taking credit for being the first to call birthers "birthers". So, you're wrong, wong.
     
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    As an example of how Birthers disagree on what is the orthodox point of view:

    http://obamacrimes.com/?p=1610
    Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the first Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. "Obama on August 21, 2008 challenging Obama’s lack of “Constitutionally Eligibility” to serve as President of the United States stated that Barack Obama a/k/a Barry Soetoro is not using a fraudulent or stolen Social Security Number. Barack Obama a/k/a Barry Soetoro was legally assigned Social Security Number xxx-xx-4425. Barack Obama a/k/a Barry Soetoro is not Constitutionally Eligible to serve as President of the United States due to his lack of being a “Natural Born” United States Citizens as a result of him being born in Kenya and his mother not being old enough to confer Natural Born citizenship status upon him and his Adoption / Acknowledgment by Lolo Soetoro in the Country of Indonesia, making Obama a/k/a Barry Soetoro an Indonesian Citizen."

    So in this instance we have one of the leading Birthers disagreeing with Dutch regarding the Social Security number but believing he was born in Kenya.
     
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    I know you're eager to fight birthers every time they so much as squeal JEFF, but aren't birthers supposed to question Obama's Hawaii being place of his birth? Or, in your book and the book of every Obamabot, everyone who questions Obama on whatever issue including his eligibility, his possible adoption, his CT SS number, his dual allegiance automatically becomes racists and birthers? Come on now, JEFF - be honest? :mrgreen:
     
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    I already answered that Dutch- do try to keep up:

    "Excuse me for forgetting which of the Birther orthodoxies you don't embrace. Birther is an inclusive term for all of those who believe, contrary to the evidence, that President Obama is not legally our President because he was not eligible when he was elected, for one or more of many varied and sometimes contradictory theories. Saying you are not a Birther because you don't believe one of them would be like claiming you are not a Christian because you are a Baptist."

    If you need me to, I can repeat this post again too.

    What I loved about my example is that Berg believes in some of the Birther idiocies but not in all of them- rejecting for instance the social security idiocy- which I agree is unrelated to eligiblity but Birthers don't seem to understand that- hence Berg's rather amusing plea to all of you Birthers to stop 'muddying' the waters with it.
     
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    You love everything about every post of yours JEFF - this much became obvious after your first twenty posts. Still do try and follow - the term birther was created to imply the person believes Obama was not born in Hawaii. Period. Obamabots went much further, and now call birther everyone questioning Obama's past, present and the future, as well as racist for good measure.
     
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    Whether or not the term Birther was initially created to mean one thing, it clearly now encompasses all the nutcases and charlatans who believe in any one of the multiple theories that President Obama was not eligible when elected- and usually believe in more than one of them- (how many 'reasons' do you believe Obama is not eligible because of Dutch?).

    The Queen of Birthers- Saint Orly herself is a good example- she hasn't found a theory yet that she doesn't whole heartedly embrace. She is the one claiming that the Social Security number is false(which Berg denies), and links that- in a completely unexplained way- to Barack Obama's birth certificate.

    I happen to agree that the Social Security number claim is completely unrelated to eligibility- but Birthers don't. Inevitably when one of the rubes starts claiming Obama isn't eligible, that is one of the claims they throw up.

    One of the things about Birthers that you can rely upon, is that they will attempt to muddy the waters by making tons of claims that are irrelevant to eligiblity- and use them as an excuse for their Birtherism- like how Birthers claim that Obama is concealing his kindergarten records.

    Maybe you don't see yourself as a Birther Dutch, but you quack like one, you walk like one and you post like one.
     
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    So you admit that you were deliberately lying when you blamed it on Axelrod?

    Okay.

    :roll:

    If you can show us an earlier use of the term than Ed Morrissey and Steve Gilbert, then perhaps I'll stop laughing at you. For a moment at least.
     
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    Actually, not true. Even the first Birthers had more theories going than just the fake Kenyan Birth theory. Go read Berg's first case pleadings for at least four.

    As usual, you have no idea what you are talking about.
     
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    Whatever. Incidentally, there's again this rash to mention Obama's BC, his skrul grades, absence of media interest to Obama's past... Rush, Trump, Bachmann... wonder why - there's no shortage of "real" news to talk about, is there?

    Off to Russia for a week, catch you all konspirators after that :mrgreen:
     
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    Finally, an honest response from you. I've been waiting for over a year.
     
  19. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Happy to make your day wong, here's to the next 5 years:

    WHATEVER, WHATEVER, WHATEVER, WHATEVER, WHATEVER :mrgreen:
     
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    This is a interesting story.
     
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    Darryl (Appuzo) is back.
     
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    Absolutely! That's it! Wait. No. It was ALIENS! Obama is from the planet Fukmeupdude!
    Obama is an Alien! The evidence proves it!
     
  23. Dutch

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    An interesting story... Now, go post on something you have a knowledge about (whatever it may be) :-D
     

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