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Did Trump or anyone in his campaign collude or attempt to collude?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Ronstar, Jul 24, 2018.

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Did Trump or campaign staff collude or try to collude?

  1. Yes

    33 vote(s)
    42.9%

  2. No

    44 vote(s)
    57.1%
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  1. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That message does not include "collusion," does it. QUOTE the statute with "collusion" in it. You can't, can you?
     
    JakeJ, Jul 31, 2018
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  2. ARDY

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    There is another interesting question
    Would and or people in his campaign collude if they saw the opportunity to gain an significant advantage.

    IMO, trump answered that question when the news of Don jr. trump tower meeting first came out.
    In defending his son, Trump said that any politician would do what ever they could to get dirt on their opponent

    So basically, if Russia was offered to collude... trump would jump at the offer

    At this point it seems clear that Russia did offer, that they did deliver
    And IMO it is clear that trump would have accepted an offer if made

    Also, team trump seems intent on establishing the back stop position
    That “even if we did do it, it is not illegal”
    Which IMO is a tacit admission of culpability
     
    ARDY, Jul 31, 2018
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  3. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    collussion means working with someone to commit a crime.

    duhhhhh
     
    Ronstar, Jul 31, 2018
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  4. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well if this is true, then all of washington should be brought to court
     
    ArmySoldier, Jul 31, 2018
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  5. Bluesguy

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    When did Trump or his campaign conspire to get illegally obtained dirt on Clinton and what was the dirt? What is this legislation you are claiming Russia got in return?

    So what about the illegally obtained dirt the DNC and Clinton campaign got on Trump? You know what they sought and paid for and then used to try and sway the election?
     
    Bluesguy, Jul 31, 2018
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    wyly Well-Known Member

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    lol, hundreds of millions are spent on campaign advertising and you want to claim they do so because in your expertise it has no effect?...you never have anything intelligent to offer the forum so I'm moving you to the ignore list, long overdue action on my part...
     
    wyly, Jul 31, 2018
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    Do I believe that someone within the Trump campaign tried to get information on Hillary from the Russians......probably, but I really see no difference here than the Steele dossier Hillary paid for on Trump. Foreign people or entities worked together to gather data intended to be harmful to the other candidate.

    Do I believe they communicated with Wikileaks or Hackers to harm Hillary's campaign.....no I do not. Do I think those groups had an agenda to get Trump elected or at least expose the crony business of the Democrat party.....yes, but I believe they acted independently from Trump and his campaign. Was his campaign aware of Wikileaks intended goal....probably, but I don't believe they were working together.....they just had the same goal.
     
    RedDirtWalker, Jul 31, 2018
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    While I will accept the determination of the Mueller investigation, at this moment, the signs point to collusion, so I say Yes.
     
    XploreR, Jul 31, 2018
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  9. Ronstar

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    did they collude with foreigners to affect a Federal election?

    nope
     
    Ronstar, Jul 31, 2018
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  10. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the Trump Tower meeting

    Quid Pro Quo was sought.
     
    Ronstar, Jul 31, 2018
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  11. ArmySoldier

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    I'm sure at some point many did. Our last president armed terrorists, sent white house aids to the funeral of a cop killer, droned civilians like it was his pleasure...

    election meddling is a mere ripple in washington's course
     
    ArmySoldier, Jul 31, 2018
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  12. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    killing islamic extremist terrorists is a bad thing now?
     
    Ronstar, Jul 31, 2018
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  13. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    everyone killed by the drones were islamic extremists? Sources
     
    ArmySoldier, Jul 31, 2018
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    What illegally obtained dirt?

    What was the quid pro quo that was accepted?
     
    Bluesguy, Jul 31, 2018
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    The DNC and Clinton campaign did.
     
    Bluesguy, Jul 31, 2018
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    Where did you get that figure from?

    As usual though posting without fact checking

    http://adage.com/article/digital/russia-spent-1-25m-ads-acted-agency-mueller/312424/
     
    Bowerbird, Jul 31, 2018
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    And there it is. The most pathetic excuse of all. "But Ma! Billy did it too!!"
     
    Bowerbird, Jul 31, 2018
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    It depends on how broad the meaning of "collude." If you mean did Trump Jr. agree to meet with a Russian to get dirt on Hillary? Clearly he did. Did he know she was being run by the Kremlin? Do WE even know that yet? Less clear. Did Trump Jr. or anyone else aid in the hacking? I doubt it. Why would the Russians share that information with anybody?

    I don't know who else you have in mind. Paul Manafort? Don't know. Flynn? Probably not. Page? No, i don't think so.
     
    Le Chef, Jul 31, 2018
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    Um . . . by your definition then definitely Hillary and Obama colluded. Wanna rethink that?
     
    Gatewood, Jul 31, 2018
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    The meeting between Manafort,Dirty Donald Jr. and Kushner with Russians promising dirt on Hillary,then lying and saying it was about Russian adoptions,fits the dictionary definition of collusion perfectly.
     
    61falcon, Jul 31, 2018
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    But, isn't this almost the exact definition of the dossier situation?
     
    Bridget, Jul 31, 2018
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    Anybody want to change their vote?
     
    ToddWB, Feb 14, 2019
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    not even close...
     
    wyly, Feb 14, 2019
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    Liberty Monkey, Feb 14, 2019
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    lol...collusion is another term for conspiracy, it's illegal...dancing around word selection is so childish...
     
    wyly, Feb 14, 2019
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