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Unequal treatment. Higher tariffs on US goods going to China and stealing technical secrets.

In other words, the democrats don't have a better way. Just don't like it because Trump did it.

 

I'm to the right of Trump on economics, and Dems generally don't mind tariffs . . . which is why Trump cited only leftist economic sources on the campaign trail. The only thing required to understand the issue here is to realize that tariffs hurt even those who impose them. Your argument only works if we assume that imports are bad and exports are good. Econ 101 says that's wrong.

 

In other words, the democrats would prefer to let the trade inequalities go on forever rather than suffering short term to stop them.

 

In other words, you didn't read the post.Try again. Meanwhile, ask yourself why you are prioritizing the Dem argument of inequality of outcome over capitalism.

 

I read your post. In other words, the democrats would prefer to let the trade inequalities go on forever rather than suffering short term to stop them.

 

You apparently didn't. Your assumption is that imports are bad and exports are good. Capitalism fixed this assumption centuries ago. Now you, like the Dems, want to prioritize equality of outcome in one regard over economic freedom and all other economic considerations. You've taken the far left's side. Just like Trump did . . . which is why he only cited leftists on the campaign trail. Your imaginary solution is just that . . . imaginary. It is me and economic conservatives vs you, Trump, and the far left on this one.

 

No. My position is that unequal imports and exports is bad.

 

Fair enough and Trump is rather crass but I'm not concerned with his personality but doing what he was elected to do. Considering the opposistion he faces (from both sides) he has done rather well.

 

A view that capitalism specifically arose to combat. This is precisely what Adam Smith put quill to paper to correct.

 

In what universe would anyone claim that it is OK to have unfair and unequal trade policies?

 

What "good things" has Trump done?

 

The price of higher wages is always higher prices. This is true whether it's tariffs or minimum wage laws. To claim otherwise is to speak irrationally. You can, to some extent off set these cost through automation, but someone has to do the maintenance and set up for the machines.

As for Trump, pardon me for saying so but he is the least authoritarian most transparent president of my lifetime and far better in both regards than his immediate predecessor. You want to know what Trump thinks about almost anything there is probably a tweet some where.

There are some folks he should ignore but he doesn't and failing to do so just makes them seem more important than they really.

I think what really irritates people on the left is his ability to zero in on opponents weakness like a laser and nail it down in a word or two. And it sticks like a glue meanwhile their attempts to similarly nail him just look spiteful and, more often than not, silly which is why it changes almost weekly.

I make no apologies to anyone or pour forth any lame pretenses I am a fully partisan conservative. I would prefer that the budget be balanced. But I also understand that with current make up of the country and the congress it's not going to happen no matter who is president. Before we can address that other things will have to happen first. Not the least of which is that more money the government takes from your boss the less money he has to pay yo and hire you some help. The next thing is that the cost of having your lame ass on the payroll is roughly twice what you ever see on your pay check.

 

I think the partisan warfare we see is due to the ideological war. We might not agree with everything, but saying so is just giving the enemy some ammunition.

I don't agree with a lot of things Trump does, but I also know that he understands the enemy better than I do, and he knows how to use their weaknesses to our advantage better than I do. I do say that I don't like some things he does, but I'm not blind to the fact that he always seems to land on his feet.

It's a war people, and the enemy is the other side of the aisle.

 

This is a perfect example of why we shouldn't air our dirty laundry in public because of things like this. It's an open-ended question with nothing of substance. It's akin to throwing ten bazillion climate scientist reports out there and then saying we need to read through all of them in order to be able to understand the topic.

The best way to defeat this tactic is to ask what is the worst thing Trump has done? Then go about debunking that worst thing. Don't let them throw the entire kitchen at us, and then we have to figure out which one might be worth our time debunking.

we might respond by saying "Trump ties his own shoes in the morning!" and then of course the response will be something else in the kitchen sink that is thrown at us, until you just get tired of the back-and-forth.

Don't fall for this type of nonsense.

 

Executed the laws enacted by the congress?

 

Here's a deal for you. Post a half dozen (no more) things Trump has done I should approve. IMHO of course. I will try a good faith response. You've been issued a good natured challenge.

 

I'll post one. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi who was the leader of ISIS was killed per his orders.

 

#Resistance

 

By held accountable, I mean the public rebuke that is history's to provide. If you were someone who continued to support aggressive policies in the Vietnam war as a continuation of a militaristic response to communism, you are held accountable for refusing to admit and acknowledge the lies that were told, in the name of that war long after others did so. If you were someone who continued to support Nixon as some innocent victim of some left wing conspirators until specific tapes showed very differently, you should be held accountable for providing Nixon cover. this notion that voters should feel no shame in their part in a democracy, no responsibility for what they cause, has to be one of the biggest problems we face.

 

I suppose one does have to accept a certain inevitably of strident partisanship
OTOH, one does not need to participate

I am curious what you you would enthusiastically identify as trumps major accomplishments?

 

I don't have 'enemies' based on politics, even Donald Trump does not so qualify. If he had a heart attack, I would provide life saving first aid, even knowing he'd be back in that oval office the next day and knowing the harm he does every single day in that office, just praying that he retires for his health . If he were my enemy I would not give that aid. My role in this thread is as a poster, not an advisor. I am trying very hard to stay on topic and talk about whether Dems should compromise with Donald Trump and remain focused. I am telling you that I think he is lying amoral bullying scum and any efforts to aide him or support him in his endeavors, should be opposed.

 

And I believe that you are incorrect, and will oppose you as long as I can.

 

Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election. Terrible.
Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE. Unconstitutional force to MAKE you, buy a private product.
Prison reform, the bastard.
Exposed Washington for what it is, exposed the unhinged nature of Democrat "leaders".

 

It seems that posting Identical posts under multiple threads, in mere moments, is a thing here. Just paste the same thing, all over the board.

 

The OP is pointing out common sense. That is something lacking these days. Thanks obama.