Differences in Crime Rates Among Racial Groups

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Victoria Klein, Apr 15, 2013.

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Which has the most influence on violent crime rates?

  1. Education

    43.2%
  2. Income

    37.8%
  3. Genes

    16.2%
  4. Other

    32.4%
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  1. Greataxe

    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not sure what you believe.

    Are you saying that you do not believe the dozens of IQ tests over time that find the same basic differences?

    List the evidence you say proves them wrong.
     
  2. wyly

    wyly Well-Known Member

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    you have no clue as to the cultural/social/economic/environmental effects as to their relevance on IQ test results...something I studied in Uni 40yrs ago...I've presented evidence here that absolutely links wealth/culture with IQ but you either willfully ignore it out of deep seated racism or aren't capable of comprehending the evidence...

    brain size-

    men on average have larger brains than women, are men smarter than women?...no

    whales have brains many times bigger than humans are they many times smarter than us?...no

    big people have on average bigger brains than small people are large people smarter than small people?...no

    are big headed Great Danes smarter than tiny Toy Poodles?...no

    did Albert Einstein have a huge brain to explain his intellect?...no, his was actually 200gms smaller than the average for his time...



    chemistry and structure of the brain determine it's efficiency not size...and even then culture/nutrition/economics/environment will effect scores...IQ results are only relevant when tested subjects have nearly identical social backgrounds and circumstances, otherwise all they reveal is that there developmental differences/circumstances between test groups...
     
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    GeddonM3 Well-Known Member

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    regardless of where you come from or you income, the main factor is education. education is simply the key for everything. If it was income then every kid living in poverty would be a gang banger or some other kind of low life, which it is simply not true because many kids living in less desirable conditions have gotten scholarships and made it to college and eventually made a decent life for themselves.

    education is the key to everything, along with parents who truly give a damn no matter their yearly income. Also lets point out that even rich kids end up doing some violent stuff and make sad choices. the result of bad parenting and not being truly educated.
     
  4. Victoria Klein

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    Bro. Blacks complete high school 19% more than Hispanics, and Blacks hold degrees 9% more than Hispanics, yet the Black crime rate is over 100% higher than the Hispanic rate.

    Are you a public school teacher by chance?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_outcomes_in_the_United_States_by_race_and_other_classifications#Education_attainment
     
  5. wyly

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    income/education is the chicken or egg scenario...without income you have little chance of a decent education, without education you have little of adequate income...yes some poor people do attain higher levels of income but they are the exception not the rule...in societies/countries where lack of wealth is not a hindrance and an equal education is available to all, poverty plays a smaller part...but from my understanding the US educational system is not equal for all, wealth is the primary requirement for better education...
     
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    no i am not a teacher, i coach football for pee wee and jr.high but i dont work in the class room.

    and i dont know why you brought up black or hispanics, but if you want to go there then fine. of course blacks are gonna have a higher graduation rate, simply because of illegals and their children. they come hear not knowing the language and attempt school but drop out because they simply cant learn. language barrier kills older illegal kids and they end up dropping out.

    which is another reason why we need to stop illegal immigration flat out, but thats another discussion .

    either way you want to look at it, education is more important than money at a young age. if a kid grows up stupid from lack of learning his/her future is pretty grim.

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    true, but lets not pretend our public schools couldnt get better. one of the main issues is lazy ass no good teachers who barely skirt by getting their degrees and only look at teaching as a pay check. the kids cant learn on their own, their elders are failing them is a big issue.
     
  7. wyly

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    immigrant kids will always have difficulty but that's no reason to prevent immigration...our immigrant kids have a more difficult time as well but devote extra school resources toward ESL(English Second Language) kids...our school rankings include the percentage of ESL kids and Special needs kids enrolled in each school, schools with high ESL enrollment in low income neighborhood communities generally rank lower...however my community has a high ESL enrollment but a high family income as well and we have the highest ranked public school in the province, private schools claim to be better but they exclude ESL and Special needs kids from enrollment...which is why think family income is more of the driver than education...



    which I can't understand, our teachers right across the country are quite consistent in ability and education...canada and the usa are quite similar demographically but there are large differences in outcome, I think there is something at work here other than teacher quality...
     

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