Discussion for women who have had abortions......

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by churchmouse, Sep 6, 2013.

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  1. churchmouse

    churchmouse New Member

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    I would like this to be a thread for the brave women who have had abortions to discuss their experiences. I would hope that others who do not know first hand about abortion...to remain silent so that an honest dialogue can take place between those who have.

    It is hard at first to admit that you have had one...but I would encourage women to open up and share their experience good or bad.

    My experience was fine at first but I suffered severe complications years later.

    What was your experience?

    And did you suffer emotional trauma, regret?


    So far I am the only one on this forum and basically the two others I go to..that will admit to having one. Statistics would have a lot more women sharing here....since millions of women get them every year.
     
  2. JohnnyMo

    JohnnyMo Moderator Staff Member Donor

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    Most woman who have had abortions do not find it difficult to admit to having one. In fact to the contrary.
     
  3. churchmouse

    churchmouse New Member

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    Them statistics say more than myself should be there. Just let us discuss our feelings...ok? Can you do that?
     
  4. churchmouse

    churchmouse New Member

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    I am hoping some will come in. But if they do...I am hoping the discussion will be between us...and no one else. There are plenty of places and threads to discuss abortion...want this one to be for women who have aborted.

    They can't call them murderers its against the rules..or supposed to be. However the names do get thrown out...that is for sure.

    The goal of this is for an honest dialogue between people who know first hand what abortion is all about...and no one else.
     
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    Anders Hoveland Banned

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    Now, as you all know, I do not have a problem aborting deformed or severely retarded babies. If I was a woman with such a baby... chances are I would abort it. But even then, I think it would be a very difficult thing to do, I think it would haunt me the rest of my life, knowing that I had a child... and that I chose to have them aborted.

    It would be like killing someone in war. You tell yourself it's the right decision. But it's still killing. That takes a serious toll. It's not something you soon forget.

    Even at four weeks. It's not nothing in there, as we all well know. It may not be a child quite yet, but it's still something. You can't have it violently sucked out without feeling anything at all. And going forward, 9 weeks, there's a baby-shaped mass in there moving around! I'm sure it takes a lot of self-rationalizing to abort that.

    I think women (and men who pressure them) know somewhere deep down what they did. There is a sense that abortion is not a morally clean thing, at the very least. When people at a party are asking about your family, why you chose to have kids, you don't mention your abortion. It's a dark subject. And yet, maybe it would be more beneficial if these women brought it out into the light.
    People talk about abortion a lot in this forum, but never is a personal way. Their abortions, how it personally effected them. It's always other peoples abortions, women in general.

    I know there are many pro-choicers who support abortion up to 24 weeks, some even later. But I would hope no one in this forum would ever actually consider an abortion for themselves if they found themselves in that situation, with a baby at 20+ weeks.
     
  6. Pasithea

    Pasithea Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    I dunno church, I have only seen one other woman on here who admitted that she had an abortion but I don't even remember her screen name. She doesn't post much here from what I can see.
     
  7. churchmouse

    churchmouse New Member

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    This discussion however is not about you unless you have had an abortion. Have you?

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    With much respect Anders...this discussion is meant for those who have experienced abortion in which you have not. I am hoping some will come in.
     
  8. churchmouse

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    Where are they? How many women are on this forum? Not one but me....? LMAO

    you go to any debate forum and women do not admit to having abortions. I don't believe I am the only one on this entire forum....no way.
     
  9. JohnnyMo

    JohnnyMo Moderator Staff Member Donor

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    They're not here.

    There are times when telling all helps ease the pain and guilt.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It seems you may carry many beliefs that prove inaccurate....perhaps there are fewer like you than you had hoped.
     
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    OKgrannie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here ya go, a whole bunch of women who had abortions telling their stories.

    http://www.imnotsorry.net/category/im-not-sorry/
     
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    Pasithea Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Maybe some people like to debate the subject and NOT make it all about themselves and their personal problems in life.
     
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    Why? Unless you are either looking for validation and or victimisation what is the point?
     
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    Oh yes...yes...and no one but myself will share? LMAO

    My pain was eased by Christ. I don't have pain today....just sadness at the coldness of society...especially since medical science says that from conception it is a new life. It is sad to hear about people who even condone full term babes...to be killed. That is sad...it is tragic, on every level. That is what saddens my heart.

    Funny no others are here.......except the ones who want abortion always to be an option.
     
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    No just a discussion...with women about their abortion experiences. Not with people who make claims they know nothing about. I would respect a woman who came in here and said...I have no problem with it. I can't tell her how to feel or what to feel. But I do not respect people that dismiss those who have gone through something...that they have not gone through.

    Women don't want to admit they had abortion...they don't want people to know. I think you know why.
     
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    WEll abortion is about more than the woman having it. It is about her...but also the child she kills and the one who actually kills it.

    I am here sharing my experiences. Have you ever shared an opinion or experience on here? Or would you like me to give examples that you have done this very thing you think I am making all about myself.

    This issue is about women...this issue is about the ones they kill. I am a woman, I had an abortion...I have a right to talk about my experience. Do you have a problem with that? Why what would you guys debate here if Anders, Sam and I were not here on a regular basis? LMAO

    None of you have had abortions..yet you are drawn to this social issue. Why? What is it about the abortion debate that you love?
     
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    JohnnyMo Moderator Staff Member Donor

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    What about my comment did you find funny?

    I'd glad that you were able to find relief and forgiveness. Do you really think there are others here that have had an abortion but are ashamed to admit it??
     
  18. Bowerbird

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    There could be a case made about someone who has an abortion and then goes on the internet to uphold an anti-abortion stance

    Much the same psychological imperative operating as ex-smokers - for some for others it is a deeper motive

    http://atheism.about.com/b/2006/07/27/abortion-the-cause-of-the-self-righteous.htm

    Rarely on this board have we seen genuine ASSISTANCE given to women who have found themselves with an unwanted pregnancy - instead what we are see time and time again is vilification of the women

    They are held to be, at best sluts, at worst murdering whores

    http://www.psychologicalscience.org/media/releases/2006/pr060126.cfm

    So perhaps the reason why women will not discuss their own abortions here is not because they are afraid but because of the tone and intent of the thread itself
     
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    Well I can't positively say yes....but if you look at statistics of the number of women who have had them...you would think there would be more than myself...wouldn't you?
     
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    What is the tone? There are only three people here daily that usually are on the pro-life side....and the majority radical pro-choice aborts that 99% support abortion until the unborns natural delivery at nine months ...so why would any woman fear sharing with this pro-abort crowd? They would be here helping you all make your case? you would be supporting them. So yea...why not more women?

    I would never condemn a woman on either side for having an abortion. But I would share my position and the reasons behind it. OMG.....you just called me a whore...slut...a murdering slut. That is against the rules isn't it? How dare you. Since I am the only one here who has had an abortion...your comments are addressed to me.

    This is a way to tell me off...

    I have never called a woman those names.....never.
     
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    Sorry but if I were still a smoker and a fervent non-smoker asked me to bare my soul on a bulletin board there is simply NO WAY I would do so because history supports the fact that those who are passionate about an agenda such as non-smoking or anti-abortion will demonise those who are involved in what they see as undesirable behaviour

    It is the equivalent of posting "Come one come all the stocks are free let us lock you into them and throw rotten fruit!!"
     
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    That is your opinion. I would never demonize any woman for aborting...never. You imply that I would aren't you? I am passionate and I believe I stand on the truth...but I would never ever call someone names like what I am being called here.
     
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    Perhaps that's one of the biggest problems we have on here though. We're making it too personal. We should stop making it personal and stop the personal attacks against one another. The purpose of the forum is to just debate the topic and not discuss one another's personal selves or personal lives.

    You already know why I discuss this issue. It affects me on a personal level from two members of my family being raped and having abortions thereafter. But that's irrelevant. Nobody here can prove their anecdotal evidence anyways and when we bring up this stuff that's really close to us and hits close to home and then others attack us or our personal experiences it makes us want to lash out. It's not a good thing to bring up in debate ever.

    Do you think I really want to hear from someone who knows nothing about me and knows nothing about two people so dear to me what horrible people they are for making the choice they did? No, absolutely not. It's best not to bring up the personal stuff and just avoid something that will ultimately lead us away from CIVIL DEBATE, which is the ultimate purpose of this forum.
     
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    I'll bite. I think Pasithea was talking about me. But I shared my story on here already and was more than willing to answer questions and talk about it.

    I am not sure what you want to talk about, but go ahead and ask.

    Oh..and I am on here every day reading. I just very rarely post.
     
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    Abortion is personal to those who have had one. This is what you don't get. Do you think spousal abuse discussion is personal to those who had to endure it?

    The purpose of the forum? First off I can't share what I think about the forum...but it will never ....never mind, it does not matter. What you talk about does not happen in forums like this and I can't discuss why.

    Personal experiences are important..it is what motivates people to change and to change circumstances. Was it a personal experience that started the end of slavery? Was it a personal experience that started the gay movement? Personal experiences matter and mine does. I would like to think that sharing my story helped a women heal or to see actions for that they really were.
    I could care less that anyone here believe me..it is the last thing on my care list....that will not stop me telling my story.

    You assume a lot. I have heard millions of stories...horrible ones. Nothing would shock me. I would never make fun of the women in your family that were raped. I have no right to condemn them. But if I was in a discussion with them...I would share the truth about fetal development..that also opened my eyes. You don't have to yell or scream or call names to share ones story. The truth can be whispered...and done that way is more affective.

    Personal stories give validity to points made. If you don't want to share...don't...but you have no right to tell another person they can't. If you don't want to listen, don't.
     
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