Discussion regarding abortion in cases of birth defects

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Junkieturtle, May 3, 2012.

  1. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    I don't believe he ever said that.
     
  2. churchmouse

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    Why does it matter? You are suggesting death to these people because parents would or could put the burden of the handicapped child on someone else…that it is to hard to find people who would lend a hand. You can't kill someone based on your assumption. Life is life….and even the handicapped should be able to live without facing people who share your obvious lack of empathy and the failure to see the good in everything.

    Your tone here shows your heart. I feel so sorry for you, really. I have two mentally challenged people in my family…one being my brother in law….who is taken care of by our entire family who deeply love him. I thank God that he was born into our family and not a family that might share your disgust on his life. You would think he was better off dead. You pro-aborts always point the finger at those who choose life.
    You assume that because we love life…we should tote even YOUR LOAD. We should pick up the slack for everything because we are the ones fighting for the life in the first place. The fact is we do tote the load for people like you….you do nothing but sit and point and get on websites to stick it to those that do…actually make a difference in someones life…especially the special needs person. That you can't comprehend…for all the obvious reasons….most I can't say because there are rules on this forum.
     
  3. Slyhunter

    Slyhunter New Member Past Donor

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    Who has a right to force someone else take care of their handicapped child because they were too selfish to abort it and won't take care of it themselves?
     
  4. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    That is what I have a problem with. People who knowingly bring a severely disabled child into the world and then immediately demand that everyone (the taxpayer) pay for their medical bills and school fees and counselors etc. If you can't afford to look after the kid by yourself, you should get rid of it.
     
  5. churchmouse

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    But you say that taxpayers should fund abortion for the women who can't afford it. Also add birth control as well. I should not have to pay for an abortion..or birth control for any other woman but myself. You want your cake and eat it too. You don't want to help someone handicapped…but you want to force people to fund abortion.

    Your last statement is just appalling…..sad…empty…God help you makedde.
     
  6. churchmouse

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    Yet I bet you want abortion funded by taxpayer monies don't you? LOL

    If you spread your legs and invite a penis in, if you take the risk…..then IT SHOULD BE YOU WHO STEPS UP TO THE PLATE AND TAKES CARE OF IT. And that includes supporting the child by yourself after the child is born.
     
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    Slyhunter New Member Past Donor

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    I believe in personal responsibility. But what do you do with those who refuse to be responsible for themselves, let them and their children starve to death?
     
  8. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    Birth control prevents abortion. You want to ban abortion, but you also want to ban the very thing that prevents abortions.
     
  9. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    Of course its the womans fault, she is obviously a slut for daring to have sex. :rolleyes:
     
  10. churchmouse

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    Well hell makedde…you made pot shots at your friend who had an abortion for all the reasons you said were right to have one.

    And you judged her…for sleeping around. Now is it right or wrong? Then you bashed her for drinking…..
     
  11. churchmouse

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    Birth control can fail….you still take the risk. Why don't you do some research….the connections of birth control and abortion. Then come back….and make comment.
     
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    Yes…let them starve to death….sigh. Its no worse than slaughtering a child in the womb…and I bet you condone that right?

    If you are all for personal responsibility, then you are against abortion…because the responsible thing to do would be to give the human that is alive…the chance at life.

    In society all sorts of people are not responsible….look at the debt some people have acquired that they don't pay and walk away from. Work responsibility, personal responsibilities…….we all have them. But killing a living human being,,,is that responsible?
     
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    What, the lie that anti choicers tell about the birth control pill causing cancer? That one is bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    IMO, if you sleep around, you are a slut, and you are even dumber if you sleep around after getting drunk.
     
  15. Junkieturtle

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    I'm resurrecting this thread because rather than make a new thread about the same topic, I figure I'll just throw this one to the top of the list and get the newer group of people in this sub-forum to take a look and comment.

    Personally, I think situations like I mention in the OP are one of the biggest reasons abortion needs to remain legal.
     
  16. FoxHastings

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    I've heard all the blather about how this "special" child brought so much joy to everyone else's life...and always thought how selfish those people were to never consider just how "joyful" is the life of the seriously disabled.

    I consider it cruel beyond words to bring these children into the world just to suffer so they can make others happy.....or even worse, feel good about how "saintly" and wonderful they are because they take care of this person...
     
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    I have several special needs people in my family, ranging from my niece who is confined to a wheel chair due to her leg muscles failing to develop correctly and surgery to rectify the problem making it worse, to a cousin who is severely disabled with a mental age of 6 months (she is 36 now), it is just not possible to even consider the quality of life she has because it will always be tainted by comparing the quality of life I have (BTW I am almost completely deaf). I don't feel that using quality of life can be done, it inevitably comes down to the quality of life for the people looking after the disabled person.
     

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