Distribution of natural resources

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  1. bringiton

    bringiton Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't matter if it's 1/4, 1/8, 1/3 or 1/2. The point is that they have to go into debt to get it, which means they have to give the land rent to banksters as interest, in return for nothing. That's the crucial factor: the productive are forced to pay the taxes that fund desirable public services and infrastructure, and they must then pay again, to either landlords or mortgage lenders, for ACCESS to the same public services and infrastructure their taxes just paid for. The productive pay for government TWICE, so that rich, greedy, privileged parasites can pocket one of the payments in return for nothing.
    Yes, it does. Because those who are not rich and privileged have to go into lifelong debt servitude to get land, they are effectively still landless.
    They are not interested in profits, which can measure contribution. They want rent, because they get it in return for no contribution.
    See above.
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We've never had "serfs" in America. The closest thing we've had are "surfs" in California.
     
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    bringiton Well-Known Member

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    Google "patroon" and start reading.
     
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    I understand. They can be made to pay 3 or 4 times, those are all variations of schemes capitalists are inventing. If there was lets call it "communism" in distribution of land, an ordinary individual would receive a lot at the time of birth; in the current system it may take 100 years of his life of payments or his mortgage may be completed by his child or grandchild (being 100 himself). So it's just taking one simple thing, complexifying it and stretching over time. I would like to see the big picture, a general model of use of one natural resource, let it be the surface of land. Capitalists are not very much interested in disclosing such a thing?
     
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    Rentiers. Not capitalists in the sense of providers of capital goods.
    Which would obviously be a ridiculous system. Everyone should get free, equal access to land, and those who want to use more than their share should pay the market rent of the extra to the community of those whom they exclude from it. Unlike communism, that ensures efficient allocation while preserving the equal rights of all to liberty.
    Because landowning is such an exorbitant privilege, it takes that long to pay for a ticket on the landowners' escalator (plus interest, of course).
    I recommend you read, "Progress and Poverty," by Henry George. It is available on the Net, and it explains how the capitalist land tenure system works, why communism would be even worse, and the second part of the solution described above.
     

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