Do college students live in a bubble?

I mean it's not the real world, yet they leave school thinking they know everything. Then when they aren't prepared they have are shocked by what they don't know. How does that happen. There should be a correlation in what you do and learn in school to the real world.

 

Depends on the individual.

Take these two people for instance:

Person #1 - All expenses paid for by their parents. School is their "job".

Person #2 - Goes to school and works to pay for it. Pays own bills and supports self.

Person #1 likely has no idea what the real world is about whereas person #2 is already living in it.

 

It doesn't help that their teachers are pushing their Marxist ideas onto them, it comes as no surprise that youth unemployment is so low. Why would you want to work when the government will care for you?

 

Ok so you're talking about like 90% of students are in the #1 category.

 

Yeah, that sounds about right.

 

then most people aren't ready for life after college.

 

This just doesn't seem right.

 

College is a huge transition. A lot of people lose their way.

 

why is that?

 

Your life up to that point is based upon your home, and most of the problems fall on the parents. Now all of a sudden you have to try to balance school life plus everything else your parents managed. It's tough on them.

 

I guess it depends on what you mean by "ready" and what you are expecting college to do for you. If you want to learn fluid dynamics, or advanced calculus, or how to write properly then college is suited to the task. If you want to learn about "the real world" then a job at the local diner would be better but "the world" may be more "real" than you'd like.

 

don't you think something is wrong with that?

 

Not especially. College is a place for academics. I'd rather they be teaching math and science than teaching how to make a budget or how to social network.

There's really only one way to learn about "the real world" and that's to jump into "the real world".

 

wow. ok.

 

America used to have a very strong "trade" class, but because of Marxists in academia and government, it's been replaced with a "college class".

 

They may be teaching some math and science, but it's layered also with a heavy dose of liberal indoctrination; to the point I think, that it overshadows everything else they learn. For most, it likely starts at K-12, and then escalates on through college.

The only students who come out of college today with a conservative mindset, probably had one going in, and had enough conviction to carry it through. Today, that percentage is probably the smallest it's ever been. Without a doubt, the vast majority live in a bubble, a very liberal bubble.

 

It's really not. Marxists have just brainwashed people into thinking that. Alexander Hamilton was orphaned when he was fourteen and he went and got a job; Ben Franklin ran away from his family when he was seventeen, never went to college, and is one of the greatest scientists ever. College back then was something you EARNED by being RIGOROUSLY schooled, whereas now it is mostly a paid vacation for adults masquerading as children. It's hard to deny how soft-headed people are becoming when you put things into a historical context.

Marxism will do that to people.

 

Okay, let's have some fun with this. No, it's not. It's all based upon economics.

And how many other people out there were there under his similar circumstances that didn't get to where he did?

Oh you mean in the age when anyone could have been a scientist? (No really, all you had to have was a question to be considered one.)

Are we talking about when only the rich and well educated went to college, versus the great mass of people who came out of WWII going to college? Big difference there.

Yeah. Don't try to pick a fight with a guy who knows a lot about history.

I think a bigger one is having a sheltered life and all of a sudden no idea the world is so big.

 

I've noticed that right-wingers are equally flummoxed by reality and tend to resort to reactionary delusions to deal with it.

 

wow. ok.

 

College students live in a bubble. Worse yet, you could say the same about many people who make a living teaching college. Heh.

I think it's normal. Starry-eyed, idealistic, going to make a difference. And a hundred and fifty years ago by the age of twenty you'd be married, have a family and probably be well-established in what would be your life's work.

I would like to drop the foolish notion that everyone needs higher education and allow those who don't want to study or are unable to learn advanced concepts to go into jobs training after sixth grade with the option of re-entering school after a period of maturation. Not everyone is college material.

I'm wrong about that. That was true fifty-sixty years ago. Now everyone IS college material. It's an industry. And it certainly doesn't hold the cache with me that it once did.

I do think todays students are more socially aware these days.

 

u got a point. the degree is watered down.

 

i paid my why through college without any help..it can be done..college loans are nice but should no exceed 1/3 of the cost..not the full amount and living expenses..its not right to graduate and have debt up your azz

 

so it's almost a setup.

 

"The degree is watered down."

That began happening in the early seventies. Control was turned over to the students. And now those same are doing the teaching. The last few classes I've picked up for the fun of it have been more like liberal indoctrination than critical thinking.

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The current generation of college graduates comes from parents that had the wedding in Cancun, bought the new house and furniture immediately and set the example of living with debt for their children.

I wonder how much of that student debt is because they eat at restaurants, buy the "right" clothing, drink in the bars and take taxis That will add up. It's easy to put it on the credit card.

Do they understand the concept of self-denial so that later you can live well? Did anyone role-model it for them?

Incidently, I also recognize that the colleges are selling an over-valued and over-priced product. It's a combination of factors. But the student does have some control over what he spends while in college.