"Do good for goodness sake, not for the false promise of a divine reward"

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  1. Bishadi

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    Do good for goodness sake, not for the false promise of a divine reward


    Does that make sense, no matter the religious belief?

    i borrowed that line from another poster.


    But like many line items that can be found within any religious belief, does this line item make sense no matter the religion?
     
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    FreeWare Active Member Past Donor

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    The good old Euthyphro's dilemma: "Is the pious loved by the gods because it is pious, or is it pious because it is loved by the gods?"

    Yes, it makes sense regardless of religion (except some don't promise rewards as such but that's merely technicalities)
     
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    I want royalties. lol

    Of course it makes sense, the good deed is far more genuine if done for the sake of doing good.
     
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    if people build from it, you are royalty
     
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    Right, but I do not see this actually put in practice. It is proven fact that people who go to church on a regular basis are far more generous to charity than people who don't.
     
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    Everyone does good for reward sake whether they realize it or not.

    If you do something good for someone, it makes you 'Feel good'. Whether it relives guilt or just plain makes you happy, it is a reward.
     
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    Well, according to the Protestants, there is no reward for good deeds.
     
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    So how did that post make you feel?
     
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    Really, according to whom????
     
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    Christians live by that motto. Can't get to heaven by works, only by Grace.
     
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    I disagree.


    ie... what is the creed for?


    Meaning; why do christians have to lie to themselves to be in 'grace'?
     
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    One post on an Internet forum ? About a rewarding as expected.
     
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    Unfortunately, when examined from a psychological point of view, there is always a reward for doing good and for doing bad. In the case of doing 'good', the reward is the 'feeling' that is garnered when the act of good is accomplished. In effect, one would be doing good to supplement the warm fuzzy feeling that one thinks he/she deserves. Of course it was stipulated that "...for the false promise of a divine reward." If one is self-serving (obtaining fuzzies) for doing an act of good, then what could be more divine to one that is self serving. One would be satisfying the divine (him/her self) and obtaining that self (divine) generated reward.
     

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