Do gun aficionados have any ideas to reduce firearm carnage in the U.S.?

The U.S. has seen at least 39 mass shootings in just 24 days so far this year

On gun violence, the United States is an outlier​

The United Stats has far more firearms and far more firearm fatalities than any other advanced, democratic nation.
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Among countries with the most gun deaths per capita, the U.S. holds a high-ranking position in several categories. The U.S. ranks No. 2 for the most gun deaths overall and No. 1 in the rate of self-inflicted gun deaths...​

The U.S. also holds the No. 1 ranking for civilian firearm ownership, with 120.5 firearms owned per 100 persons. In fact, according to the Small Arms Survey, the U.S. has 46% of all civilian-owned guns across the globe, despite having less than 5% of the global population. Among the countries on our list, No. 14, Pakistan, has the second highest number of civilian firearm owners per 100 persons.
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Are firearm regulations in the U.S. too permissive to achieve a reasonable level of public safety?

What do gunsters recommend to significantly reduce the inordinate human slaughter by gunsters?

I hope public-spirited gun lovers will share their proposed solutions and ameliorations of the nation's unacceptable plight.

Historically, in the Old West, guns were confiscated when entering a town. E.g., the laws of Tombstone, Arizona required visitors, upon entering town to disarm, either at a hotel or a lawman's office.

Are there modern public safety measures that could be effectively applied?
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Guns aren't the problem. People are the problem. It's a societal issue. When I was in high school we all had gun racks in the back window of our pickups, and do you know how many school shootings we had? Exactly zero. We didn't resort to gun violence to handle problems. You met up in the parking lot after school and handled it the old-fashioned way. Fast forward 50 years and now we have gangbangers everywhere, "entertainers" rapping about doing drive-by's, slapping hoes, and killing their rivals, uncontrolled southern border, cartel activity in border towns and major cities, and liberal politicans and district attornies that are lax on crime and simply release criminals to do it all over again....

 

More enhanced sentencing if a person uses a fire arm in a crime. More police on the street. More conceal and carry for law abiding citizens.

 

Did you see the story about the FoxNews weather guy getting stomped on the subway?


A group of teens set and old man's HAIR ON FIRE with a lighter. He told them to stop it and went to help the man. The next stop the animals came back and attacked him.

Get those people off the streets and watch violence in the hood drop. They know they can get away with it and that's how they are brought up.

 

You have to admit it would solve the recidivism problem!

 

They were back on the streets within HOURS

and whats your suggestion to get them off the streets?

 

many of the mass shootings that happen is because the shooters are so ignorant, they believe the only form of justice is killing those that they believe have wronged them...they take barbaric actions because this is the only thing they can think of that will bring justice



3 replies in this thread have suggested that public crucifixion would be the proper form of justice for many criminals

are gun nuts so ignorant and barbaric the only punishment they can think of is public crucifixion??

 

We'll also see the overthrow of our Constitutional rights. Got any solutions that don't involve wiping your ass with the Constitution?

 

My thought is that it isn't the gun itself that causes these. It's the culture. Why have democrats seized on celebrating this kind of violence these days? I'd ask that question first. If, as so many are pointing out, the rise of the victimization culture has been so pervasive and is starting to show catastrophic results in the society, there real question then, is to who's benefit does this ratcheting up of artificial angst and overflow of violence into the culture belong to? Clearly, I'd suggest it to be the fault of those within the Democratic and progressive parties of this nation who thought they were capable of actually controlling these behaviors... well, it's just typical.

 

Maybe! Which part does my ideas go against?
I searched the constitution for the word "criminal" and only see it in amendment 5 and 6
https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/full-text

 

Just curious, but what "constitutional rights" do you suppose this would be in violation of?

 

Try reading the 8th Amendment.

 

What constitutional rights would torture violate? Please tell me you aren't serious. Do they not teach this **** in school anymore? Please read the 8th Amendment.

 

I suspected that you couldn't actually answer the question. Show us the language in the 8th amendment that you're worried about?

 

I suspected you were not aware of the existence of the Bill of Rights. Most of us learned about that whole "cruel and unusual punishment" thing by middle school. Yet you are telling us you didn't know about that part until today. Weird.

 

So, tell us again, what, specifically, in the 8th amendment you feel the comment violated.. Tick Tock.... And not the Chinese version... LOL

Show us the legal standard for cruel and unusual that you feel supports your feelings here...

 

I am serious. Whatever we are doing currently is NOT enough of a deterrent.
here is amendment 8
Eighth Amendment
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

What defines "excessive bail"? I've seen cases where the bail price is in the millions.
What defines "Cruel"? The electric chair doesn't fall in that category?
It seems to me it already is being used as TP, might as well make it effective TP

 

Cruel. And. Unusual. Punishment. Please read. Please tell us how actively torturing someone on live TV for a full week isn't cruel. Let me know when you are ready to learn about the rest of the Bill of Rights.

 

The proposal was a week-long televised tortured session. Yes. That's cruel and unusual. If it isn't, then nothing is. But color me surprised that you are now advocating the overthrow of the 8th Amendment. I'm sure you aren't fond of the others as well.

 

Hmm.. See, you can't just say the words because, as the SCOTUS have repeatedly said, they have no contextual meaning on their own. And just because you "feel" something is either cruel, or unusual, doesn't make it so under the context of the law. Try again.

 

If publicly torturing someone for a week straight isn't cruel or unusual, then the words have no meaning. Try again. Or keep waging your war against the Bill of Rights. By the way, SCOTUS has repeatedly ruled that the 8th Amendment outlaws torture. Please catch up.

 

Ok, so you aren't prepared to actually discuss this, and have concluded that only your view of a thing is acceptable. Perhaps you might understand your view seriously limits the ability to have a discussion.

Defend your feeling here. The purpose of the thread is to understand why these things happen, and how to perhaps keep them from happening in the future. Do you have a suggestion that otherwise doesn't also while the constitution across your back side? Cause I think we are all waiting breathlessly for that... LMAO>..

 

I'm here when you are prepared to discuss the fact the the Constitution outlaws torture. We both know you will never be prepared to have that discussion. You are "waiting breathlessly" because of your own refusal to engage.

 

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Oh I dunno.

Not putting murderers back on the streets might be a good start.