Do Obama followers still believe in his "Change"

I am not sure I understand your post.

What is it I said that you disagree with?

 

Your question was how many men were killed by a war that Obama started, or for that matter, how many wars did he start.

Strawman

It has nothing to do with believing in his "Change".

He has done very little of what he said he was going to do. There is no transparency at all, like he promised. He is doing what he know how to do best. Talk the talk but you don't have to walk the walk. Chicago politics at it's best.

 

My post was a response to a claim that the president was more inclined to start a war than the previous president.

Okay. When have I ever stated otherwise?

 

I posted a video showing you the proof. and you still disagree???


have you seen the movie "One flew over the cookoo's nest"???

 

My guess is that most that were stupid enough to believe this lying incompetent charlatan in 2008, are still stupid. You can't fix stupid. The hope is that their instinctive laziness will keep them on their couches and they won't bother voting this time. Hoping they tripped over a spark of intelligence is a waste.

 

No. I generally do not accept the rantings of conspiracy theorists on YouTube as any sort of proof. Now certainly there have been US casualties there, as you stated, you should have a news story. By news I mean an actual news organization.

I did. I thought it was overrated. But I read the book first, which was written form the perspective of Chief, and goes a lot more into detail about his metal disease, adn how the arrival of McMurphy affected him. I though the movie, while good, missed the meaning of the book and was simply a comical farce, not some genius piece of work.

Though I always enjoy Vincent Schiavelli. The young Christopher Loyd was awesome, along with the young Danny DeVito

Now if you want a funny 70's movie, I suggest Harold and Maude. Hysterical. Especially Harold's various methods of faking his suicides

 

The intent of the book and the movie was to make money while entertaining. Not to restructure the universe..

 

but um..sir...the clip I posted for you had your dear leader Barack Obama on it in his own words. are you calling your dear leader a liar?

 

No, I am calling your clip a silly misconstruction of poor conspiracy theory and heavy editing.

 

WOW.

you can get the transcript for that media conference with Obama talking about it. but I won't do your research for you.

or you can just stay in the dark.

 

Of course not. Obama doesn't believe in asking congress for official approval on anything, much less something as mundane (tongue in cheek) as war.

 

+1 indeeed

 

Poor 4horsemen. He fell so hard for the Hope and Change thing. The bigger the crush, the bigger that crash.

Compare that to the liberals, who just thought he was a politician. We can only shake our heads sadly at these conservatives, the ones telling us over and over that President Obama was the messiah.

Hey, has anyone ever seen a liberal call President Obama messiah? I rest my case. Many conservatives have a raging mancrush on President Obama, and now they're just upset because President Obama doesn't return their calls.

 

Yes ...

All you need to do is read the post in this Forum to see the Fear of Change.

 

Does this remind you of anything?

Screw ... asking Congress to do their Job

 

More like the Fear of ....

 

What your graph shows is that Bush was not good at bringing the 2 parties together, and obie is much, much worse.

 

Well, he hasn't really changed anything.

 

Does the name Chris Mathews ring a bell?

"I've been following politics since I was about 5," said Mr. Matthews. "I've never seen anything like this. This is bigger than Kennedy. [Obama] comes along, and he seems to have the answers. This is the New Testament. This is surprising."

Albeit prematurely.

No, that would be Chris Mathew's again.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/13/chris-matthews-i-felt-thi_n_86449.html

I have to tell you, you know, it's part of reporting this case, this election, the feeling most people get when they hear Barack Obama's speech. My, I felt this thrill going up my leg. I mean, I don't have that too often.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/09/chris-matthews-obamas-spe_n_80805.html?

Chris Matthews: Obama's Speech Made Me Cry

 

Well, he has changed some things, albeit in bad ways that will cripple us in the future.

 

You actually think Chris "I thought in listening to the president [Bush], I was listening to one of the great neoconservative minds," Matthews is a liberal? Wow.

Chris Matthews is a manwhore who gets mancrushes on all kinds of people. He adored Bush, he loved McCain, he adored Obama, he gushed over Rudi. Though not Al Gore -- Tweety despised Gore, because Gore was a dirty hippie, and Matthews hates the dirty hippie liberals.

Doesn't really matter though. Above all, Chris Matthews is fickle, and he'll quickly turn on his newest love, whoever it happens to be.

 

And you love him for it too. Especially since his new mancrush is Obama.

If he was talking down on Obama you'd call him a racist.

 

Wrong...Michelle Obama walked by and he just got new contacts!