Do people on the Right want the "less fortunate" to suffer and/or die?

But nobody is being forced, as you pointed out hospitals have been helping people for thousands of years.

 

Agreed.

Statist gonna state.

 

No, enslavement is simply taking away someone's freedom to make a choice. If a gun shot victim comes into the ER, and was shot by a police officer after he murdered a nurse's father, that nurse should have the right to say I'm not working on him. A law mandating her takes away her freedom to make a choice....it enslaves her.

 

Incorrect. There is a law, which is backed by the barrel of a gun, that FORCES hospitals to treat people. This is enslavement, plain and simple.

Is it your opinion that one person has the right to enslave another and force him to provide healthcare services?

 

They are being forced if the Govt makes it a law.

 

Holy hyperbole. In that ridiculously over-the-top example you gave, other nurses would step in to help in her place.

 

But you said hospitals have been helping people for thousands of years so nothing is being forced. They were already doing it.

 

How can it be forced if they've always been helping people?

 

Only if she had the freedom to make the choice not to operate. If a law mandates her to, she loses that freedom

 

As I said, other nurses fill in. No issue.

 

We are talking about there being a law....if there is a law, and they break the law they have consequences. With no law, they have the freedom to make the choice. Do away with the law. I don't understand how this is so lost on you.

 

There is an issue if she breaks the law. I agree, that others will fill in...so need for the law....people won't be dying in the street as you suggested.

 

But again....hospitals have been treating these people for thousands of years so there is no issue.

 

Show me one real world incident where the exact scenario you mentioned has ever happened in the US.

 

agreed...no need for any sort of law. Allow people the freedom to make choices. Allow people to be free

 

If it's a law, then they're being forced.

Second time: Is it your opinion that one person has the right to enslave another and force him to provide healthcare services?

 

I don't know every incident that has happened to every nurse in the history of the United States, that's silly...I'm just highlighting a circumstance where a law would be horrible.

but since you now agree that doctors and nurses and people in general will help those in need....then you acknowledge there is no need for any sort of law

 

Should a mechanic be forced to fix ones car? a plumber to fix one's sink? a baker to bake one a cake? a lawyer to represent someone? we'd all agree no....but for some reason people think that doctors and nurses shouldn't have the same freedoms.

 

How can someone be forced to do something they are already doing???

The fact is hospitals were turning away patients, hence the law. So, because of the practice of patient dumping I am ok with the law. You should be too considering you've stated several times that you believe people in need of emergent care should get it. If we didn't have the law, there would be people who wouldn't be getting the care they needed.
Would you be ok with hospitals going back to the practice of patient dumping?

 

Wrong....there is a need for the law due to the old practice of patient dumping. I mean seriously, did you really believe that law was enacted for no reason at all?

 

Wait...you just said it wouldn't be an issue because someone would fill in for the nurse...another hosptial would fill in...there is no need for the law. Patients weren't dying in the streets in 83

 

you literally just said that a nurse would fill in....so why the need for the law? Again...show me where people were dying in the streets for lack of care in 84

 

I didn't say another hospital would fill in. In your ridiculous scenario I said another nurse would fill in. I also never said there is no need for the law. Not sure where you got that from.

 

Where did I say there was no need for the law?

Show me where I said people were dying due to patient dumping?

 

Another nurse...another hospital....anotehr doctor....someone will fill in.

You acknowledged they have been treating people, and people wern't dying on the streets in 84 for lack of care..