Do you defend starvation as a weapon in Gaza?

Not interested.

 

This is overly dramatic. Does anyone really believe that Hamas is a real threat to the national survival of Israel? It is more terrorist organization than powerful foreign military force.

 

Cool, I have no problem having my thoughts on you people be confirmed by all your respective silences. As if the lack of logic used to defend your positions wasn’t proof enough…

 

Many nations have been toppled without an enemy invasion... France in the 19th century... USSR in 20th century...

 

when proportionality in military force happens, the wars are extremely long and especially brutal. You suggesting Israel sit and wait till such proportionality happens is devoid of any logical or historical merit.

Hamas’ entire existence is based on wiping out Israel=they can’t be lived with peacefully= they must be destroyed= the sooner the better.

Israel was stupid in ever letting the Palestinians govern themselves and letting Hamas turn the entire strip into one big military fortification. Even stupider to turn back now and let Hamas survive to guarantee even more future war.

 

AARguy does love his fantasy stories.

 

The only Palestinian related way I can see Israel possibly being toppled is if Israel becomes so extremely brutal that even the USA won't support it, and won't provide foreign aid, political and military support, etc, somebody like Iran then invades. And I don't think that will happen.

 

Half the population are minors. You are suggesting starving children to death to try to put pressure on soldiers among them.

 

The majority of the people who will be starved have no option to surrender. Rape has been practiced in war throughout history. Throwing babies on spears and bayonets has been practiced in war throughout history. Doesn't make it right.

 

Nope. I'll answer the question if you rewrite it. But hey, If you want to double down on comparing Israel treatment of Palestinians to Nazi concentration camps, go ahead. I'll take that as a win.

 

I didn't suggest that.

Yes, and Israel should be careful not to create a threat worse and stronger than Hamas while putting an end to Hamas.

Israel should have done whatever it could to encourage peaceful coexistence and the adoption by Palestinians of a less hostile to Israel ruling body.
Israel may never be able to win the hearts and minds of all the Palestinians, but it could at least cease fanning the flames of hatred.

For example, the mere statement that Gazans will be allowed back into Gaza and that Israeli settlers will not go on and take Gazan land from the Gazans after they are driven out of the area by bombing could go a long way. The PR war is just as important as boots on the ground.

Agreed. Hamas needs to go, and Israel should be trying to turn Palestinians against Hamas, rather than failing to distinguish between the two.

 

Also, I just have to say this: for all of those people saying that "war is hell" and that it's okay to starve children because you have to focus on your goals and can't be bogged down by thoughts of morality . . . you have no grounds for criticizing any of Hamas's attacks. War is hell, according to you, so they just have to go with whatever tactics work. Personally, I find targeting civilians, especially children, to be vile. But both Hamas supporters and Israel supporters seem fine with it.

 

It's tribalism to its ugliest extreme.

 

Agree. However I believe some actually do believe Hamas is a threat to Israel’s survival. It’s a convenient way to justify genocide.

 

Israel pressures Egypt to take in Palestinian refugees
https://www.ynetnews.com/article/syaffgaft

Everything you think you know about Israel is wrong.

 

Projection.

 

Careful with this daughter of Satan. You don't want me to run crying to my daddy.

Just ignore me.

 

The missiles were created after Israel let Hamas import pipes which officially were used for irrigation, after Hamas complained that Israel prevents importing material for infrastructure development. After Israel stopped import of metal pipes Hamas was stealing pipes from Israeli territories which Israel helds from 1948 and after Israel stopped it, they brought pipes from Egypt using underground tunnels in Rafah near Egypt border.

You convinced me - Hamas is so stupid, they didn't come up with the idea to create underground rooms for storage of food, water or medicine, because building underground attack tunnels into Israel was more important for Gaza civilian population.

You convinced me - Hamas is too stupid to understand that Oct 7 attack will bring harsh Israeli response, too stupid to understand that allowing civilian population to hide from bombing in underground tunnel will save Palestinian people life.

Wait, wait...maybe Hamas is not stupid at all, maybe they aimed their propaganda toward gullible, poorly educated people?

 

When you realize what Israel is up against, it seems reasonable.

The cure is for the Hamastinians to disperse to the 40+ Muslim majority nations where they will be easily assimilated.

 

They don't have to smuggle; They can release the hostages. Please correct my ignorance by pointing out a thriving population of Jews in the region outside Israel.

 

Gaza has created its own hardship. And Israel is perfectly justified. In sheer numbers, Gazans could easily overpower Hamas and give them to the IDF. Hamas as well can easily free the Israeli hostages and surrender themselves en masse to the IDF. Either of these two choices would solve the immediate problem. There is nothing about Gaza to be sympathetic about. The issue is theirs, not anyone else's. They have exactly what they deserve. If there are innocents in Gaza, then their suffering is on the guilty Gazans. It is all a Gazan thing.

 

Except no one is starving to death hence why no one is trying to get out. If they were starving, they would leave, or do the adults hate their children that much?

 

Oh okay, I thought you were serious when you started making WWII comparisons so I addressed you seriously when it was all really you making up a terrible comparison with the intent of being called out on making a terrible comparison.

strange to make a bad comparison with the intent of being called out for it but you do you.

Glad you agree that comparing the genocide of WWII to Israel vs Hamas is really Fin stupid though. We agree!

 

In WW 2 we dropped 2 atomic bombs killing millions. We bombed German civilians on purpose to ...to defeat the spirit of the German civilians. That wasn't immoral...it was winning the war. Many people don't care or they cheer when Hamas specifically targets Israeli civilians and then these same people condemn the Israelis for not allowing supplies and aid to the enemy. That is immoral and just shows me what side these people want to win.

 

They would leave? The children in Gaza could just pick up and leave? It could not possibly be more clear that you haven't even spent five seconds looking into Gaza.