Do you think a 15 year-old girl should be able to get married?

The fact that Jesus walked the earth is a historical fact. You do not have to be a believer to know that he actually existed. There were many witnesses.
Now whether the miracles he performed were real and he was actually the Son of God is another discussion.

It does not say exactly, but she was most likely 14-15 when she was betrothed. In that time it would have been less common for the girl to be much older, especially since she was a virgin. Most scholars hold to this view.

 

Mary was only 12 or 13 when God got her pregnant... But I 100% agree, it should be illegal to marry at 15

 

Nope. There are conflicting religious tales with clear celestial motifs, but eye-witness accounts of an actual Jesus of Nazareth, Bethlehem, or Galilee, are quite lacking, especially when it comes to contemporary material. It is nothing but a powerful fiction that has been, and is still being, brow-beaten into reality. At this point people are simply conditioned to think of Jesus as real. He's been treated as such for many generations, and Christianity in its various forms has been so powerful and prevalent that, for the longest time, no one could dare to question the existence of this god-man without putting his life and livelihood on the line. They used to burn people for less...

No, evidence is lacking. The bible doesn't count, because it is a hodgepodge of religious stories and other claims, and there is nothing outside of it to substantiate the claims made within it. Further, the bible, if you're relying on it, clearly makes things up. Take King Herod's alleged butchery of children under the age of 2, which was fictitious as well, and no one buys the notion that Jesus' father would have had to travel to Bethlehem to register for a census, and for that matter I've heard that Bethlehem wasn't even inhabited at the time all of this was alleged to have occurred. That's three major strikes in the (contradictory, I might add) nativity stories. There is no evidence of Jesus' crucifixion either, of course. There is none, in fact, for his existence at all. He exists only on paper and in people's minds, and that's how it's always been.

If only people would apply critical thinking to the religious crap they're taught. They'd be surprised just how much bunk they believe in! But see, people are easily deceived when they're lied to convincingly from childhood on, and when those lies come attached to promises of eternal life and threats of eternal punishment, and so on. That creates further bias to believe in the lies. Plus, we don't have much experience with known fraudulent characters like Jesus. It's not often that someone who never lived is claimed to have lived like this. There are other such examples, however...

Do you believe that John Frum of the South Pacific island cargo cults was real? See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult

Or Herakles, for that matter? The Greeks used to consider the demigod Herakles a real historical figure, to the extent that Spartan kings claimed to be descended from him, yet he was a Christlike figure born of a divine daddy and an earthly mommy, and he is accounted for only in tales, such as his 12 labors. Those 12 labors are an allegorical account of the sun's course through the 12 houses of the zodiac, and as it happens, the Gospels are clearly the same thing. See: http://www.usbible.com/Astrology/gospel_zodiac.htm

 

The generation of our grandparents are different than the generation today.

Kids are babied and coddled all their lives, 15 year olds in our grandparents generation were practically adults. The teenagers today are children. Why work if mommy and daddy gives you money? Why work if you can get TANF and Section 8 housing?

If she isn't pre-pubescent, then it is not pedophillia.

 

I wonder how many people here would be against a 15 year-old getting married but would be okay with her having sex? Most of the supposedly perfect Scandinavian countries have the age of consent set at 15.

 

Yes. I don't like the idea and would never support it in my family, but that is something that certainly should be permitted by the law.

 

I would, I am not sure about legal marriage but I think 15 is old enough to consent to sex with adults (and any age is OK as long as it is only sex with their peers, i.e. near age exceptions).

 

Why girls? We cannot discriminate, young boys can get married with 40 years pedophile. Is not gay marriage is beautiful invention.

 

Questions like that are difficult because when I think of most 15 year olds they are just skinny kids. But there are others that could pass for twenty something. So if everyone is for the marriage, ie parents, most important the girl etc, and the girl has all her faculties yes I would approve of it.

reva

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I am old fashioned. If the boy could support the girl at 15 why not? I think the parents would have more in the say because it is they that might have to support them and a baby for three to six years (if their children lost their jobs etc).

reva

 

laws should apply regardless of gender, female pedophiles are as bad as male ones

 

Your brain is not fully developed till your 25

 

A 15 year old is still a child. Even a mature 15 year old needs more time to mature and grow emotionally. What I would like to see 15 year old boys and girls have is: 1) Sex education at school since many parents still don't talk to thier kids about the birds and the bees. 2) Birth control that is easy to get if they have sex anyway. No teenager needs a baby. 3) The morning after pill should be available to any unmarried girl under 21 years old.
This is my opinion.

 

The so called "Virgin" mary was only 14 (some say even 10 or 12). Why do you support a pedophile god?

 

How did you conclude that marriage is worse than sex?

 

What do you mean, "worse"?

Obviously it takes more mental faculties to get married than just to have sex.

 

So is the person marrying the 15 year old is going to be another young teen or some older person who just wants to bang a 15 year old and not go to jail?

Either way no.

 

My view on this is pretty broad. I think this, along with other issues, should be based on what rights are granted the individual. If a 15 year old can, at any point, be prosecuted as an adult [that is, be treated as a legal adult], then the individual at that point in their life, regardless of whether or not they individually have been treated as a legal adult yet, have all the rights of a legal adult.

If we're to, in any respect treat any fifteen year old as a legal adult, then we should treat them as such in all regards. With that I also include right to purchase and consume tobacco and alcohol. It is absolutely ludicrous that we can tell young boys they have to register for the draft (and potentially be drafted), but deny them the right to drink a bottle of Sam Adam's.

 

Originally the voting age was 21 years, and that is exactly why the voting age was lowered to 18, because as you said, people recognized it was not fair to draft young men into war while not allowing them to vote.

It used to be that a girl had to be 21 years old to get married on her own, but she could marry at a younger age with the permission of her father (and many girls did).
Many boys started working when they were 15 or 16 and got driver's licenses, though for a long time most families could not afford a car.
People back then did not have the same concept of adulthood starting at 18 that people do now.

 

15? sure why not

 

I sense some negative judgment veiled behind apathetic sarcasm...

What's wrong with 15 ?? The girl's probably going to have sex anyways, the way things are in today's world. Might as well be married, in a committed relationship.

 

You think many 15 year-olds have the maturity to even comprehend what a committed relationship really means and entails?

 

So they should just hold out until they are mature enough? How long will that be?
Meanwhile you just expect them to keep their legs crossed? Does a 15 year old boy have to hold out too?
If they're mature enough to have sex, they're mature enough to enter into marriage.

 

Link to anything showing a definitive age (not speculation based on possibilities considering practice)
If she was a virgin how weak does one's reasoning skills have to be to come to the conclusion of pedophilia without sex?

 

Absolutely not. Why do you ask?

 

And what do you think things would be like with a bunch of drunken 15-year-old boys running around? Good grief. . .