Do you think abandoning Afghanistan will be politically beneficial to the Democrats?

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Will this politically benefit the Democrat Party?

  1. Yes, they will politically benefit

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    26.3%
  2. No, it will end up hurting them

    12 vote(s)
    63.2%
  3. Not sure, it could go either way

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    10.5%
  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It couldn't persist without some air support. The Biden Administration denied that air support to them.

    Because once the Taliban overran military bases, they seized supplies, armored vehicles, and weapons. It quickly snowballed.

    The US should have intervened and sent even a little bit of military assistance at the very beginning of this resurgence.
     
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    It couldn’t persist with one either.

    The agreement with the Taliban was for a ‘complete withdrawal’
    Seems we do negotiate with terrorists
     
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  3. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    At what point did the Taliban break the deal?

    The US should have immediately intervened then, or begun making preparations to imminently intervene.
     
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    Prisoner swaps that Afghanistan refused as they were not involved in the terrorist negotiations

    What should the US had done? Occupied them for another 20 years?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It did not take too many forces to occupy them. After about 2012, the forces were not really there to occupy. They were just providing some additional assistance to the Afghan government.

    The main thing that they needed was some air support.

    You seem to be confusing the war with maintaining a small number of military forces there. The two are not the same.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did the ceasefire that our president at the time sign include a provision to maintain a small number of military forces there?
     
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    There is a way to retreat and disengage, and this is not it. It should be terrifying to everyone of us to see that our military brass let this happen.
    They were either ignored, incompetent, or were ordered to fail.
    The same applies to our intelligence agencies.
    This is what the swamp is all about and why it is bad. Group - think, ass covering, resistance to orders, sand in the gears, all protected by “secrecy”.
     
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    Marie of a straight up dumbass then clueless.
     
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    Getting out is a good thing. Botching it as much as humanly possible is not.

    If journalists and Americans end up killed by The Taliban, it will go very very bad for Democrats.

    If they don't, it's still going to go very bad for Democrats.

    The Taliban aren't ISIS, so they may allow passage with minimal bloodshed, and that's a good thing. Not out of fear of Biden, just as a matter of keeping their word.

    The 82nd is securing the base. That's the A-team.
     
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    No, they control the MSM and the voting machinery in too many places.

    There's a reason Stalin always won 95% of the vote ;)

    Honest elections are no more.
     
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    Probably at least 90% of Americans wanted to get out of Afghanistan, sure... but what has hurt Democrats badly is the treacherous, half-assed, cowardly way that Geriatric Joe bugged out of there so suddenly, just so he could say he got us out by the 20th anniversary of '9/11'....
     
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    Has it hurt? First returns in

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    Hmmmm

    Poll question
    The United States has been in Afghanistan for 20 years should we leave now = 90%

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    If the United States unconditionally pulling all forces out of Afghanistan even a small core reactionary force would lead to Taliban takeover and a resurgence of al Qaeda and ISIS and enable them to plan and execute attacks against the western nations would you support that plan = ?
     
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    Truth? Today, just over half the population of the U. S. gets one kind of subsidy, handout money, or other form of welfare-suck from the government.

    Thus, they care less and less about having anything to do with anyone but themselves, just so long as they can remain on their asses at home without working and get paid for it....
     
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    The history books haven't been written yet. Biden can survive this unless the **** hits the fan. Then Biden will own it.
     
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    Ha! We Americans have grown so accustomed to sh!t, stunning incompetence, and vicious, deceitful rancor in our government that I doubt much of anything that happens now in Afghanistan, including the very real possibility of mass-murder would draw any enduring notice.

    Still, maybe after video clips start hitting the internet of people being burned alive, thrown off the top of buildings, being beheaded, it may make something of a 'splash', even on minds as dumbed-down and inured as ours are when exposed to Islamo-Nazi big-fun events today.... :icon_clueless:
     

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