Do you think Marijuana should be Legalized Federally in the US?

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Do you think Marijuana should be Legalized Federally in the US?

  1. Yes I think Marijuana should be Legalized Federally in the US.

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  2. No I do not think Marijuana should be Legalized Federally in the US.

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  1. AlifQadr

    AlifQadr Well-Known Member

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    I am of the mind that PROHIBITION was a step in the right direction, and I am far from being a fundamentalist Christian. Imagine that if prohibition was kept within the states, there would not be any sobriety checkpoints and maybe the cost of automobile insurance would not be as high as it is in some states. To me, you cannot go wrong with prohibition.
     
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    Constitutionally, you argue a sound case, I am thinking in personal behavioral terms. It is because of the negative behaviors of some, that marijuana is criminalized.
     
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    Prohibition of alcohol is up to the states at this time. In most of the Southeast, there are cities/counties that don't sell alcohol. There are less than there were 40 years ago, but they exist nonetheless.
     
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    I don't think there is any need is there? Those states that want it can have it.
    Seems a bit pointless being authoritarian for the sake of it.
     
  5. Seth Bullock

    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The truth is, people are going to use marijuana whether it's legal or not legal. It's a personal choice for most, not a matter of law so much. Those who don't want to use it, won't use it, even if it is legal. My state recently legalized recreational marijuana, and medical marijuana has been legal for years now. The sky hasn't fallen because of legalized pot. Life goes on as before. Users use; non-users don't use. And my state collects taxes on it.

    People feel differently about it in different parts of the country, so I say just let the states decide what's right for them.

    I like the idea of taking away that source of income from the Mexican drug cartels, and I like the idea of allowing law enforcement to focus its time and effort on other things.

    Seth
     
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    And which treaty would that be? But more important, what makes you think it even applies?
     
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    of course it should, no reason for it to be illegal
     
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    what Country has the right to tell Americans what plants they can plant in their own gardens?

    we can unscheduled it anytime we want
     
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    how about we start by getting the feds out of it, turn it over to the states
     
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    The "negative behaviors of some" are significantly lower in the case of marijuana intake than in the case of alcohol. So. . . they tried to make alcohol illegal years ago. . .and it didn't do any good, on the contrary!
     
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    GOOD THING! And here I thought that it changed.
     
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    the can outlaw the sale of alcohol, not the possession in ones own home... people just travel where they can buy it and bring it home
     
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    and I may not what to hear the filth coming out of some people posts either, but I would not outlaw them with large prison sentences

    some people think everyone want to see and hear that.....

    if it was legal, many would prefer to eat it vs smoke it
     
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    Well, I am NOT a pot user, not because I find the use "evil" or dangerous, just because I am not even a smoker, and I prefer my brownies with good Belgian chocolates. . .not pot!

    But it is a fact that there are MORE people dying because of alcohol use than from marijuana. And, in case of Marijuana, if people die (I still haven't found one case, but I will take your word for it until you are proven wrong), at least they don't take innocent children and/or automobilists with them!

    In fact, you are correct that EVERY danger should be well documented. But let's face it, there should also be a warning on potato chips, candy bears, donuts, and french fries!
     
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    Really? People in this country see dying as trivial on an ongoing basis. I would bet that right know you are sitting there rooting for the war to begin in Korea, Iran, Russia and Syria. You see the lives of these people as trivial, collateral damage. Not to mention all those fellow Americans, the order followers that will run off to war and kill anybody they are instructed because some authority said so.

    But you readily accept false claims based on the propaganda of the fake news network. Objectively, please, let's define it as it is, a subjective argument handed to you by your favorite illusionist.
     
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    I know, the speak-easies and the bootleggers. As I said, I like prohibition, personally. You validated my point in your response about prohibition; a significant percentage of the population rebelled, which demonstrates why marijuana should remain criminalized at the federal level, people lack self-control. I am sure that if the problems with alcohol during pre-prohibition era, where not severe, prohibition would have never been legislated. I know people like to blame prohibition on The Victorian Age, but I do not see that as being a major factor that led to prohibition. There was even The Whiskey Rebellion before Prohibition which does not speak well for the nation as a whole. All past and present experience causes me to lean towards continuing the federal criminalization of marijuana. If those who use the narcotic would practice discretion, I would have no problem with people using it, indoors. After all, morality cannot be legislated.
     
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    Seth Bullock, you are a reasonable Man, it is too bad that too many are not as reasonable.
     
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    Why? By what right did they criminalize it in the first place? By what right does any man have to tell another how they should lead their life?


    Imagine, we are all equal except by the divine right of kings. Ah, the contradictions of John Locke, we are all equal unless....
     
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    Well, I feel exactly the same way about regular cigarettes and every form of tobacco!
    So. . .let's ban EVERY form of smoking in public, and make it legal in the privacy of your home!
    Wrong. Prohibition only had very little, and temporary effect on alcohol use. Then it actually made it worse:

    1) "First, use of alcohol decreased significantly during Prohibition.104 This decrease in turn lead to a marked decrease in the incidence of cirrhosis of the liver.105 Finally, the suicide rate also decreased by 50%.107"

    That statement is, at best, misleading. In truth, nobody really knows exactly how much alcohol consumption increased or decreased during Prohibition. The reason was simple enough -- people like Al Capone didn't pay taxes on their product and thereby report their production to the government. Licensed saloons became illegal speakeasies, and many common citizens took advantage of the high sales price of illegal booze by secretly manufacturing booze in their own bathtubs. That's one of the major problems with all drug prohibitions -- they greatly reduce the ability to make accurate judgments about the problem. There is no good way to count the number of illegal dealers, or the people who are secretly making gin in their own bathroom. Therefore, to make such a judgment, we have to rely on a number of indirect indicators.

    By the greatest majority of indicators, the biggest drops in alcohol consumption and alcohol problems actually came before national prohibition went into effect. Those drops continued for about the first two years of Prohibition and then alcohol consumption began to rise. By 1926, most of the problems were worse than they had been before Prohibition went into effect and there were a number of new problems -- such as a drinking epidemic among children -- that had not been there before.
    www.druglibrary.org/prohibitionresults.htm
     
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    Well, I feel exactly the same way about regular cigarettes and every form of tobacco!
    So. . .let's ban EVERY form of smoking in public, and make it legal in the privacy of your home!
     
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    But then how does all those law enforcement officers justify their positions? And how are we going to keep all those jail cells full? How are the private jails going to keep from going broke?
     
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    Thank you. I'll give credit to age and experience.
     
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    Yes, I support marijuana legalization.

    I think the increased tax revenue is only a side benefit. The real advantage to making marijuana legal would come from the elimination of a funding source for criminal organizations.

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    I'm skeptical of this claim, however.
     
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