Do you trust Joe Biden or Trump more?

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Do you Trust Biden or Trump more?

  1. Trump

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    47.1%
  2. Biden

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    20.6%
  3. No government official

    11 vote(s)
    32.4%
  4. Undecided

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Joe knows

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    Pretty simple question. I have a few options rather than just Biden or Trump. I chose no person in government. Unfortunately I believe that’s the position we should take no matter how much we like the person we voted for. For example I voted for Trump the first go because he claimed the war on guns would be over with him and it wasn’t so F him. But I also damn sure don’t trust Biden. Specially with anything war related which he has managed to prove his incompetence on. Or do I trust him with my wallet as he thinks college handouts are more important than Supreme Court rulings, the constitution, the national debt, and border security. So there’s the explanation for my views but none the less I say don’t trust any government official.
     
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    I don't trust much that government tells us.

    Too many times they been caught in lies.
     
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    This is a really tough one to answer, as presented here. I don't trust either Trump OR Biden, and I don't want either of them to be President of the United States! That said, I'm reminded that history has shown us clearly that egocentric despots like Stalin, Mao, Hitler, FDR, Lyndon Johnson, and many others could be TRUSTED to do very much what the world expected that they'd do, given their personalities and proclivities. So, in that sense, yeah, I "trust" Trump more than Biden.

    I noted elsewhere that what's left of Joe Biden is little more than an animatronic 'rubber-stamp' for his 'woke' handlers to use as the prime mechanism to ram through their progressive agenda. How much should we "trust" the Leftist insiders who pull Biden's puppet strings? With Trump there exists no such ambiguity....
     
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    I place no trust in any politician. Although some do a better job in the office, they hold than others. I would trust a used car salesman more than any politician. They’ll do anything and say anything in search for your vote. Only 26% have trust in the presidency, just a single digit worth of trust is place on congress at 8%. You can look at all the institutions in the link below:


    https://news.gallup.com/poll/508169/historically-low-faith-institutions-continues.aspx


    Myself, I trust neither Trump nor Biden nor do I have any faith in them. That’s holds true for most politicians. When I vote I vote for the candidate I think will do the least worse job or the candidate I dislike and distrust the least. Which at times is impossible to determine which results in a vote against both major party candidates casting a ballot for a third party candidate.
     
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    What do you mean by trust?
     
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    I don't care for either one of them, but if you push me, it would have to be Trump.

    Biden is a crook and a possible traitor. In his diminished state, the people who run the Whitehouse, are attempting to create a fascist state with the use of the Justice System, national and local so far, and the FBI. The Democrat state attorney generals might might get in on the action later.

    I don't want either one of them, but if the November 2024 choice is between the "Orange Man" and the "White Rat," I'm voting Orange.
     
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    How can anyone trust Biden when all he is, is a figurehead, the face of the cabal that is governing the US today? Trump is what he is right up front.
     
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    @Joe knows

    Your poll is poorly defined. It asks, not who do we trust, beyond any question, but who do we trust more, between two people. That is the question, I answered. Then, though, you add-- without specifying the degree-- the option of not trusting any government official. This is really a separate question, from whether we more trust Trump or Biden. I think most people understand that you cannot trust implicitly, absolutely everything a government official might say-- making your poll option moot, unless that choice is taken to mean that the person distrusts everything that any politician says; IOW, trusts absolutely nothing that comes from either Biden, or Trump, or anyone in government.

    Such an attitude, though, is utterly dysfunctional-- since we cannot personally confirm every bit of information that is reported. We need to invest some degree of trust, barring any contraindications of its veracity, in some information from other sources. If all government sources are considered complete fiction, I don't know where one expects to make up the deficit-- especially since news sources also rely on government information. People who feel this way, are pathologically paranoid. I have a feeling, though, that you will get many to choose this option, because you do not make your meaning clear, and they will assume you merely mean that they don't trust the government, with utter credulousness. If that is what you mean, though, it essentially makes moot, your question between Biden and Trump.
     
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    I'll give you that. Everyone knows where the "Orange man" stands. Biden has been a life-long liar. Now that he's mentally incapable, he just ignores the questions.
     
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    I don't think he hears or comprehends the questions. He has been traveling a lot, showing the flag and he's worn out physically and mentally. I have never liked or respected Biden but this is not a Biden administration we would have seen 10 years ago.
     
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    He wasn't any better 40 years ago. He's like most politicians, lies so much he never knows what he's talking about.
     
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    That's an accurate observation about Joe Biden. Hell, even back in what were surely his best days (in the role of a team-player for Bill Clinton in the 1990's), Biden was never anything more than a low-spark mediocrity... someone who was always there to say the expected things at the expected times, while voting the expected way.

    And that's what he is today -- someone who does what his extreme-Left handlers tell him to do. The ultimate "Yes"-man.

    Really! Can't we do better than Joe Biden?! And, ALSO, can't we do better than Donald Trump?! :lonely:
     
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    If I had to choose between those two? Trump all the way. Trump over much of the DNC to be honest. The DNC is a corrupt, reductive, destructive pile of **** of which we are currently living their "eutopia" and it sucks.
     
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    I am not seeing much new from the group of GOP hopefuls. So far not much Tim Scott to judge from. The "debates" seem to be tightly controlled opportunities to push the Party agenda. Trump is still the front runner because he is the only one with a record to judge him on. Thin the field and answer questions from real people.
     
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    I don't believe in trust in general, but Biden is more predictable. Biden will pursue moderate liberal policies. Trump will pursue fringe right wing policies but with the wild card of catering to whatever or whoever strokes his ego. Biden is better as somebody who tries to do the right thing, even setting policy differences aside.
     
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    Well, this far away from the November 2024, we shouldn't even be having "debates", IMHO. It won't be until about next January at the earliest that we have even an improved sketch of "who's who" in the upcoming election.

    That said, throughout the coming winter a candidate should be able to prove that he/she has at least 10% - 15% of a supporting base of party voters before they're even permitted to be up on the stage when debates DO start in earnest!

    Sure, in theory, giving everyone a chance seems more in harmony with the idea of fairness, but it muddies up the water and bogs everything down. Plus, with so many candidates in contention, there's all the additional sniping, bitching, and complaining -- about everything!
     
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    What is moderate about his policies? He's full liberal near as I can see.
     
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    He hasn't tried to legalize all drugs, socialize medicine, or ban all firearms, so he's not too extreme by international standards. People still get arrested for trying to get into the country illegally, so despite the open borders rhetoric, it's not the reality. I'm not sure where you would consider him extreme, except compared to a conservative.
     
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    That was what many people believed before the Biden Administration got into power.

    Already even on the campaign trail Biden wanted a fist fight with a worker in Detroit, he is clearly a nut case and full of anger.

    And yes, he does normally try to do the wrong thing.
     
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    Forcing electric cars on everyone not to mention power plants is some liberal form of conservative?

    The last time I saw high inflation I was in my early 3o's, had a good job and didn't mind. This time I am on SS, a fixed income and I can tell you it makes a difference. Biden's policies have done this. Oh, and the border is open.
     
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    Inflation has been a global phenomenon, therefore it's hard to blame it on Biden. Inflation initially was due to insufficient supply after a surge in demand after covid restrictions. Europe vs US inflation:

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    We do have to move to electric cars at some point, even if disbelieve AGW. We are held at ransom by oil, and oil can be used for other purposes besides combustion. The market will not get it right on its own.

    The border is not open with headlines like this:

    U.S. arrests along Mexico border top 2 million a year for first time | The Texas Tribune

    You don't arrest people for trying to cross if the border is open.
     
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    It seems you find it pretty difficult to blame Biden for anything.

    I'll say this for him, he's really being abused by his handlers. I can empathies with him because I'm about the same age and suffer from much that he is. He's used up and this has turned into the Weekend At Bernie's administration.

    And the border is a sieve
     
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    Biden is exactly what I expected when I voted for him except he's actually been a little more effective than I anticipated with total legislative gridlock. The fact he's not drifted far left or far right ideologically, is a tribute to either his constancy and his staff/ cabinets sense of discipline. Even though some of his positions have changed ( we really don't want a politician who never changes his mind over the course of decades) and his campaign aspirations have collided with political reality and lead to disappointments, Big picture, he's doing fine.

    I knew I was not voting for a progressive Democrat, and I knew I wasn't voting for conservative Democrat. I voted for a man who has preferred to to drive in the center- left lane ideologically for decades, and despite some lane changing here and there to avoid traffic or an accident, that is where this administration has staying in this commute most of the time.

    The right wing rhetoric has been just as predictable. Just like Carter, Clinton, and Obama, Biden's a socialist, an incompetent oaf, a liar, and both too hawkish and too dovish to be trusted with foreign policy.
     
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